[net.audio] Sterophile's reply to the cable review in Stereo Review

man@bocar.UUCP (M Nevar) (05/14/85)

       This is an editorial that appeared in Stereophile Magazine
       Volume 6	Number 6  that came out	in the Spring (?) of 1984.
       It is reprinted	by request of you netters.  It is long.
       If you have any interest in high-end or speaker cables,
       read it, it is VERY interesting.
       Well, here goes:

       The Horse's Mouth

       It's not	often that you get a chance to have extensive
       discussions with	the horse's mouth, but we recently had that
       opportunity.  Since July	of this	year (1984) there has been
       extensive discussion in the audio community, particularly
       the high-end segment, of	Larry Greenhill's review of three
       speaker cables in Stereo	Review (August,	1983, Ziff-Davis).
       From recent talks with author Greenhill we've learned  that
       that the	most interesting story was *not* in Stereo Review:
       instead it can be found in the varying reactions	from
       different quarters, and what they say about the high-end
       industry	in general.

       The commentaries	have been many and varied. About six weeks
       after the SR article appeared, we were privileged to receive
       the preprint of a critique by Peter Moncrieff, of IAR.  This
       critique	consumed 14 pages and was unusually circumlocutory,
       even for	Peter.	It went	to great lengths to pound SR's
       point of	view into the earth, along with	it, a piece of the
       readers patience.  Many just criticisms of Greenhill's
       article (as published in	Stereo Review) were made, but that's not
       all; IAR's critique went on to introduce questionable theoretical
       constructs: a concept known as "the vinegar effect"; an analogy which
       likened the performance anxieties surely	experienced by the
       listening panel to sexual performance anxieties;	a radical
       proposition with	respect	to left-brain right-brain
       separation as it	affects	the outcome of psychoacoustic
       experiments.  Unfortunately, in my eyes,	the IAR	critique's
       ponderous length	and doubtful points obscured what was in
       fact legitimate criticism of the	SR cable review.

       IAR circulated this preprint to a variety of high-end
       manufacturers.  The purpose was to alert	this community to
       the danger posed	by the variety of misleading analyses
       employed	in SR's	speaker	cable article, to decry	Stereo
       Review's	standard position on the audible differences (the
       title of	the critique is	"Three Strikes and You're Out"),
       and to suggest a	boycott	of Stereo Review's advertising
       pages.  Responses were solicited	with the promise of
       printing	them intact in whatever	form they came.

       To my mind, the most remarkable aspect of the IAR story was
       its consumption of an entire issue of IAR Hotline.  I could
       only think, "Gee, Peter,	why spend so much time
       demonstrating what everyone's known for time immemorial:
       Stereo Review is	committed to badmouthing high-end audio."
       I was surprised when IAR	Hotline	eventually came	out; a
       large number of people had actually written to voice dismay
       at the speaker cable article, to	testify	as to the
       audibility of different speaker cables, and to decry high-
       end's lack of muscle in the marketplace.	 Apparently the
       issue m=was more	controversial than I thought.

       Then I heard of even more reaction.  Hans Fantel	of The New
       York Times wrote	a piece	pointing to the	Stereo Review
       article as yet more proof that high-end audio people were
       raving lunatics in their	insistence that	seemingly minor
       factors can have	major effects on the sound.  Gregory Sandow
       of The Absolute Sound wrote a piece for The Wall	Street
       Journal (Nov 29,	1983) pointing up the differences between
       TAS (and	its ilk) and Stereo Review as exemplified by Larry
       Greenhill's article on speaker cables.  In their	September
       issue, TAS ran a	comment	on the SR article, a few letters in
       response, and a very funny "play" starring Julian Hearse,
       Antonio Stradivarius (sic), David Ramada-Inn, Gordon Sales,
       and Hairy Person.

       By this time Stereophile	readers	who haven't read SR's
       original	article	should be running to their shelves,
       garbages, or libraries to see what possibly could have been
       said that would generate	all this controversy.  And that's
       just the	point: controversy, no matter the source, generates
       interest	and sells magazines.  The most interesting comment
       of all comes from William Livingston, editor of Stereo
       Review, in a letter circulated to SR's "comp" list and
       addressed to "Friends of	Stereo Review":
	   "In the August (1983) issue of Stereo Review	we published
	   an article by Laurence Greenhill in which he	described the
	   results of listening	tests...  The article turned out to
	   be a	somewhat bigger	news story than	we realized...	The
	   letters came	from everywhere	from Ogden, Utah, to
	   Montevideo, Uruguay... I have never responded to the charge
	   that	Stereo Review is an enemy of the high end.  Anyone
	   who reads the magazine knows	that this charge is unfounded...
	   While such letters may not prove anything conclusive about
	   speaker cables, they	prove to me that Stereo	Review is a
	   magazine with a very	high degree of reader involvement.
	   We are a magazine that makes	a difference." 

       Not surprisingly from the tone of this letter, SR's "comp" list
       is composed mostly of advertisers.

       What does Stereophile think of the SR cable review flap?
       Well, we're in an unusual position, because we've seen both
       the article Stereo Review printed *and* the original article
       as submitted by Larry Greenhill.	 I spent some of my
       undergraduate years studying the	New Testament.	Much of	the
       New Testament scholarship is devoted to analyzing the
       different contributions made by the "authors" of	the
       different gospels as they passed	along orally the traditions
       they had	received.  believe me, if the evangelists made the
       changes in their	oral traditions	that Stereo Review made	to
       Larry Greenhill's article, the New Testament might read like
       Fear of Flying.

       Granted,	SR reported the	data just as Larry gathered it --
       in fact,	some of	the data actually contradicts the written
       part of the article.  then, of course, SR inserted a lot	of
       their editorial opinions	about the inaudibility of different
       components and general scoffing at high-end audio nuts.
       They really put it to the reader, though, when they made	up
       their conclusion	to Greenhill's article:

	  "...the results demonstrated that while Monster Cable	and
	  16-gauge lamp	cord are both audibly different	from and
	  probably superior to 24-gauge	wire, 16-gauge is good enough
	  to be	indistinguishable from Monster Cable when playing
	  music.  An esoteric cable would have to be demonstrably
	  superior on 16-gauge wire... So what do our fifty hours
	  of testing, scoring, comparing, and listening	to speaker
	  cables amount	to?  Only that 16-gauge	lamp cord and Monster
	  Cable	are indistinguishable from each	other with music and
	  seem to be superior to the 24-gauge wire commonly sold or
	  given	away as	'speaker cable.'  Remember, however, that it
	  was a	measurable characteristic--higher resistance per foot
	  --that made 24-gauge wire sound different from the other
	  cables.  If the cable	runs were only 6 instead of thirty
	  feet,	the overall cable resistances would have been lower
	  and our test would probably have found no audible differences
	  between the three cables."


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       Careful readers of the article as printed will know that
       this conclusion does not	present	an accurate description	of
       the data	that was gathered.  Even more interesting, Stereo
       Review's	editors	entirely created that ending.  Author
       Greenhill's original manuscript has none	of the offensive
       language	that eventually	appeared.  Here's how he put it:

	  "The striking	outcome	is that	the panel accurately heard
	  and named speaker cables in 5	out of 6 comparisons. .	.
	  The listeners	felt pleased after this	listening test
	  battery:  they had heard real	differences !  After 50
	  hours	of testing, scoring, comparing,	and just plain
	  listening, they were exhausted but felt accomplished.
	  Both Monster Cable and twenty-four gauge wire	could be
	  heard	reliably under double blind conditions."

       Big difference, wouldn't	you say?  Yet Greenhill's original
       actually	allows for two different interpretations of the
       data.  One measure of the reliability of	a series of
       identifications is known	as chi square, or binomial,
       statistical analysis.  Using this method, a prediction is
       made as to the probability of the identifications having
       occurred	by chance.  Another measure of reliability, one
       commonly	used in	psychoacoustic experiments, is the 75%
       rule: if	a subject's identification (of the speaker cable,
       in this instance) is correct more than 75% of the time, the
       difference identified will almost certainly be audible--
       presumably to most people, most of the time.

       When Stereo Review wrote	their conclusions, they	essentially
       threw out all the tests where a subject was unable to
       identify	the cables more	than 75% of the	time; Greenhill, on
       the other hand, was impressed that his group of 11 listeners
       could pick, with	better than 999	to 1 odds, between 16 gauge
       zipcord,	24 gauge zipcord, and 11.5 gauge Monster Cable
       (using the chi square method of statistical analysis).
       Greenhill's original report, which is three times the length
       of the published	one, makes it possible to evaluate the two
       methods fairly.	It's certainly possible	to distinguish
       between 24-gauge	and either 16-gauge or Monster:	one can
       reliably	distinguish between 16-gauge and Monster (using	the
       best signal, pink noise), but the differences are right at
       the edge	of audibility so that many listeners won't notice
       them, and the most acute	listeners will.

       I think it's unfortunate	that more of the original report
       didn't make it into print, instead being	sacrificed to SR's
       editorial viewpoints.  Greenhill	and his	friends	from the
       Audiophile Society (who supplied	8 of the listeners for the
       cable test) have	tried several double-blind listening tests,
       and none	of them	have come up with positive results (ie,
       reliable	identification of the components in question).
       Here they finally achieve success in the	form of	interesting
       results,	but those results are obscured by the time the
       report makes it to print.  The first interesting	result is
       that the	listening panels preconceptions	of cable
       performance had a large effect of perceived differences
       between cables *when they knew* which cables were in use.
       Second, differences were	still perceived	in double-blind
       testing,	but to a much lesser degree.  Third, panel members
       were surprised that the differences between the cables were
       so subtle and difficult to distinguish.	Fourth,	the
       performance of different	panel members varied widely:  there
       was one truely amazing "ear" amongst them, and four very
       good ones. Fifth, differences between very similar cable
       (none of	them using exotic materials or cable geometry in
       their construction) could still be reliably picked out, even
       when (in	one trial) the resistances of the different wires
       were artificially matched using a potentiometer.	 Sixth,
       pink noise is a better test signal for discrimination than
       the choral music	selection used (not necessarily	all music).
       With a list of positive results such as this, it	really
       makes you wonder	why SR chose to	emphasize only the
       negative.

       Much can	be learned from	the coverage afforded the cable
       article.	 Stereo	Review has used	Larry Greenhill's article
       by distorting it	to represent their well-established
       editorial positions.  IAR has used it to	draw attention to
       it's role as savior of the consumer and of the high-end
       industry.  TAS has capitalized on the humor possibilities,
       and taken the opportunity to attack Julian Hirsch (Hearse)-
       -at whose feet I	feel this matter is unjustly laid.  Hans
       Fantel, who must	have read only the conclusions and not the
       data, used the article to justify his hitherto- announced
       scorn for esoterica.  The Wall Street Journal seemingly has
       no axe to grind,	but Gregory Sandow has used their pages	to
       not unfairly promote The	Absolute Sound,	for whom he also
       writes.

       Significant harm	has been done, however.	 Truly esoteric
       speaker cables (of which	New Monster Cable is definitely	not
       one) have been maligned in the eyes of that portion of SR's
       550,00 readers who are not intellectually discriminating--
       and without even	being tested.  The cause of "scientific"
       testing has not been helped; here was a successful test
       which earned its	author and participants	not fame, but
       infamy.

       Larry Greenhill's position in the high-end community has
       been changed substantially , at least in	the short run.
       Several manufacturers now refuse	to talk	to him,	and a
       magazine	he works for (High Performance Review) has even
       been denied the opportunity to review a certain
       manufacturer's products.	 Attacked by all manner	of
       underground magazine (whose ranks he once felt a	part of),
       Larry has hardly	known which end	was up these last few
       months.	On the other hand, he has only himself to thank.
       He did sign off on the article as printed, with adequate
       time for	review,	although there was a lot of pressure to
       accept the changes suggested by SR's editors.  His personal
       opinion is that it would	be wise	for him	(and for others	who
       write for those magazines whose primary interest	is
       attracting advertisements) to be	most careful about what
       they approve for	publication.  In keeping with Larry
       Greenhill's desire that the whole issue go away,	we close
       our review of the cable article situation with a	plea for a
       more objective stance from Stereo Review, who had the chance
       to expose as a success this attempt to differentiate between
       slightly	varying	components, and	a plea for the many more
       tests such as the one carried out by Greenhill.



       Well, that's it.	 Lunch time.....



						Mark Nevar