[net.audio] CD cleaner and laser MTBF.

nivek@cmu-ri-rover.ARPA (Kevin Dowling) (09/10/85)

CD cleaner:

I still think CD cleaners are kind of silly but I take pretty good care of
my discs and haven't had any skipping problems that weren't quickly wiped
off. But for those interested I saw that Radio-Shack has a lower cost
version of some CD cleaners I've seen. Page 26 of the new RS catalog: $12.95

Laser MTBF:

The playing time of my year-old Sony D5 CD player is approaching 1000 hours
(average of 3 hours/day) I'm wondering if anyone out there has had their
laser fail yet (on any player) and what time and money cost it entailed?
They story is that the laser is supposed to last 2K hours or more so
I'm not worried about my particular player but some of you I'm sure
have had their player for some time now.

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hunter@oakhill.UUCP (Hunter Scales) (09/10/85)

In article <236@cmu-ri-rover.ARPA> nivek@cmu-ri-rover.ARPA (Kevin Dowling) writes:
>CD cleaner:
>
>I still think CD cleaners are kind of silly but I take pretty good care of
>my discs and haven't had any skipping problems that weren't quickly wiped
>off. But for those interested I saw that Radio-Shack has a lower cost
>version of some CD cleaners I've seen. Page 26 of the new RS catalog: $12.95

	The instructions on some of the CDs I have purchased state
explicitly that CDs should be wiped with a soft cloth (*no liquids) in
a radial direction (i.e. from the center of the disc outward.) This
makes sense given the way that the information is layed out in
concentric rings and the type of error-correction scheme.  A tangential
or circular scratch would destroy a lot of data and, more importantly,
have a better chance to destroy the redundant info, as well.

	Since *all* of the CD cleaners that I have seen involve wiping
the disc while spinning it, doesn't it seem reasonable to assume that
these devices are not only unnecessary but also undesirable?



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dave@rocksvax.UUCP (09/12/85)

After waiting for 2 weeks for some other part for my Yamaha CD-X1, they
decided that the laser output looked a little weak and while it was still
under warranty would replace that also.  I tend to play the machine
about 3-4 hours or more a day.  The unit is 1.5 years old now...

Dave

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dca@edison.UUCP (David C. Albrecht) (09/16/85)

> A tangential
> or circular scratch would destroy a lot of data and, more importantly,
> have a better chance to destroy the redundant info, as well.
> 
> 	Since *all* of the CD cleaners that I have seen involve wiping
> the disc while spinning it, doesn't it seem reasonable to assume that
> these devices are not only unnecessary but also undesirable?
> 

Virtually all the spinning cleaners I have seen do not spin the wiping
surface concentric to the disk but rather offset it so that the edge of
the wiping surface intersects the disk at the center point and thus is
perpendicular at the edges of the wiping surface to the disk tracks.

David Albrecht