[net.music] Red Lorry Yellow Lorry, The Sisters of Mercy, & Joy Division

nessus@mit-eddie.UUCP (Doug Alan) (06/19/85)

A while ago someone asked for someone to post a review of Red Lorry
Yellow Lorry's album "Talk About the Weather".  I'm a bit too lazy right
now to think of much original to say, so I'm just going to post this
review by Terri Sutton that I have stolen from the April/May 1985 issue
of Matter and that I largely agree with:

	Everything about this record is jagged, from Chris' gravelly
	dungeon vocals to the constant grinding guitar to Paul's
	prominent, menacing bass lines.  Funereal.  Heavy.  Did I say
	Joy Division yet?  There's nothing much here in the way of
	innovation, but they do have their moments: "Hollow Eyes"'s
	("She's Lost Control") repetitive rush, the insidious guitar
	line of "Strange Dream", the consistent brutality of it all.
	Spritely and danceable as the Sisters of Mercy or Three Johns,
	this record will get a lot of play and deservedly so -- it just
	won't blow off anyone's head.

I'd also like to add that the song "Talk About The Weather" is quite
nice.  The whole album is hellishly depressing dance songs, with
suitably depressing music.  Great stuff to dance away your pain to
(because nothing is as depressing as real life).  It may not work, but
it's more fun than banging your head against the wall.

Joy Division is definitely the original for this type of music, so you
may want to check out them instead.  Ian Curtis (Joy Division's lead
singer) must have been pretty serious in his dispair -- he committed
suicide right before their first American tour, apparently because he
didn't want stardom.  But even if Red Lorry Yellow Lorry aren't the
artistic innovators that Joy Division were, I like their music better.

Actually, I like The Sisters of Mercy significantly better than Red
Lorry Yellow Lorry.  I have their album "First And Last And Always"
(which should have been named "Black Planet"), and I like it a lot.
It's incredibly danceable and more melodic (though not obnoxiously so).
It didn't come with a lyric sheet, though (Boo!  Hiss!), so how can I be
properly depressed when I can't understand all the depressing things
they're saying?

			"You ain't nothing but a true embrace
			 You ain't nothing but a hidden face"

			 Doug Alan
			  nessus@mit-eddie.UUCP (or ARPA)

jer@peora.UUCP (J. Eric Roskos) (06/20/85)

> Joy Division is definitely the original for this type of music, so you
> may want to check out them instead.

Joy Division is one of those groups who ought to have a warning label on
the cover of their albums.  I innocently bought one of their albums because
it had a nice looking family of curves plotted on it...

I guess the term "joy division" probably means something to those in the
right subculture that gives them a clue, but I had no idea until I read the
lyrics.  Ugh.   Kind of hard to relate to.

[PS - No flames, please.  I mean, I'm not commenting on the moral aspects
of their music or anything like that... only that it's the kind of stuff
some people might find uncomfortable.]
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rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Rich Rosen) (06/24/85)

> Joy Division is one of those groups who ought to have a warning label on
> the cover of their albums.  I innocently bought one of their albums because
> it had a nice looking family of curves plotted on it...
> [PS - No flames, please.  I mean, I'm not commenting on the moral aspects
> of their music or anything like that... only that it's the kind of stuff
> some people might find uncomfortable.]

Which is why it should be required listening for people living in the
20th century, especially those who spend their time listening to refrigerator
music on magic radio stations.

> I guess the term "joy division" probably means something to those in the
> right subculture that gives them a clue, but I had no idea until I read the
> lyrics.  Ugh.   Kind of hard to relate to.

I recall joy division was a term referring to the sections of Nazi
concentration camps in which the prostitutes were kept.
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cv@linus.UUCP (Chris J. Valas) (06/26/85)

-=-

>(J. Eric Roskos) writes:
>
>Joy Division is one of those groups who ought to have a warning label on
>the cover of their albums.  I innocently bought one of their albums because
>it had a nice looking family of curves plotted on it...
>
>I guess the term "joy division" probably means something to those in the
>right subculture that gives them a clue, but I had no idea until I read the
>lyrics.  Ugh.   Kind of hard to relate to.
>

The band chose the name to suit the music:  "Joy Division" was the term
applied by German troops to the prostitute's wing of concentration camps
during WWII.  Their name was "Warsaw" previous to that, and there is a
good import album of early raw material available by that title.

-=-

Chris J. Valas         {decvax,utzoo,philabs,security,allegra,genrad}!linus!cv
-=-
"To the depths of the ocean where our hope sank, waiting for you...."

rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Rich Rosen) (06/29/85)

> The band chose the name to suit the music:  "Joy Division" was the term
> applied by German troops to the prostitute's wing of concentration camps
> during WWII.  Their name was "Warsaw" previous to that, and there is a
> good import album of early raw material available by that title.
> -=-
> Chris J. Valas         {decvax,utzoo,philabs,security,allegra,genrad}!linus!cv

A real trivia question for JD buffs is "What was their proposed name BEFORE
Warsaw and who proposed it?"

NAF:  Fgvss Xvggraf, Crgr Furyyrl bs gur Ohmmpbpxf

(Another bit of macabre and morose trivia:  One of the names suggested for the
renaming of the band after the lead singer's demise was The Swinging Curtises.
I'm not kidding.)

(I think I posted this just to prove to myself that I can write about things
other than Yes in this newsgroup.)
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