evan@telly.UUCP (Evan Leibovitch) (10/12/88)
I received a call this morning from someone wanting to know if 'System Telly'
might be in need of some qualified 'C' programmers, which his placement
firm would be more than happy to supply.
The nature of the call, and things which were said, clearly indicated that
this guy was going through the Ontario Usenet maps to make a phoning list
of Unix sites, asking to talk to whomever's listed in the '#C' field.
Has anyone else been called? Are there other instances where the Usenet
maps are being used for commercial purposes (not including the Telebit deal).
Are there ways of protecting the information in the maps? I have no objection
to the regional co-ordinators copyrighting the maps if it will stop their
misuse. Perhaps there are better ways...
Comments?
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Evan Leibovitch, SA of System Telly, located in beautiful Brampton, Ontario
evan@telly.UUCP (PENDING: evan@telly.on.ca) / {uunet!attcan,utzoo}!telly!evan
Don't worry - Be happy.brian@ncrcan.UUCP (10/14/88)
In article <379@telly.UUCP> evan@telly.UUCP writes: >Are there ways of protecting the information in the maps? I have no objection >to the regional co-ordinators copyrighting the maps if it will stop their >misuse. Perhaps there are better ways... I don't think we could ever stop such public information from ever being misused. The potential for this misuse can happen with any list that you put your name on. It frequently does, with magazine subscription lists, those little product information cards at the end of tech mags, etc. About the only way to stop it (in the case of a magazine subscription) is to tell the distibutor that you do not wish do have your name placed on a distributed mailing list. So, you could likely do the same in the comment feild of the Usenet maps, saying something to the effect of "Don't call us, we'll call you" Brian. -- +-------------------+--------------------------------------------------------+ | Brian Onn | UUCP:..!{uunet!mnetor, watmath!utai}!lsuc!ncrcan!brian | | NCR Canada Ltd. | INTERNET: Brian.Onn@Toronto.NCR.COM | +-------------------+--------------------------------------------------------+
dave@lsuc.uucp (David Sherman) (10/14/88)
I received a similar call, and it's quite likely the source
was the Usenet maps, though I can't say for sure.
There's not a whole lot we can do about this kind of thing,
and it's not a big deal in my view. We're all on lots of mailing
lists for all kinds of purposes. If I were looking to hire
someone (we will be shortly, in fact), I might have found the
call useful.
David Sherman
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{ uunet!attcan att pyramid!utai utzoo } !lsuc!davepaul@ziebmef.uucp (Paul Maclauchlan) (10/15/88)
In article <379@telly.UUCP>, evan@telly.UUCP writes: > I received a call this morning from someone wanting to know if 'System Telly' > might be in need of some qualified 'C' programmers, which his placement Same here (well, not here, at moore). I can't program in a language I can't spell! sea? see? cee? Leave me and my APL alone. > > Are there ways of protecting the information in the maps? I have no objection > to the regional co-ordinators copyrighting the maps if it will stop their > misuse. Perhaps there are better ways... We could all call him one day. Maybe when they call Whizzo I'll ask for a programmer, or quality control taste tester :-) Seriously, if anyone knows who it is some moral suasion might be useful. -- .../Paul Maclauchlan Moore Corporation Limited, Toronto, Ontario (416) 364-2600 paul@moore.UUCP -or- ...!uunet!attcan!telly!moore!paul "Living is easy with eyes closed, misunderstanding all you see"/JL'67
brad@looking.UUCP (Brad Templeton) (10/15/88)
Good luck... You publish something that widely, there's no way you can keep it out of the hands of these folks. Even if you copyright it, they can still use it -- they just can't duplicate it without your permission. The best bet would be to put a comment in your file that says: This firm rejects ALL calls from telephone solicitors, and boycotts the products of companys that use this marketing technique. -- Brad Templeton, Looking Glass Software Ltd. -- Waterloo, Ontario 519/884-7473