human-nets@ucbvax.ARPA (04/11/85)
From: Charles McGrew (The Moderator) <Human-Nets-Request@Rutgers> HUMAN-NETS Digest Wednesday, 10 Apr 1985 Volume 8 : Issue 14 Today's Topics: Queries - Knowledge Exploration & Information on FILENET, Response to Query - Information on FILENET, Computers and People - Digital Utility Centers & The Home Computer ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 4 Apr 1985 1030-EST From: Amsel-Sdsc@CECOM-1.ARPA Subject: Knowledge Exploration KNOWLEDGE EXPLORATION DOD Computer Scientist conducting a study of information flow which will culminate in an analysis of the Knowledge - Information processing involved in a large hi-tech research and development environment. Request assistance and dicussion on any of the following topics: 1. Definition of knowledge. 2. What constitutes knowledge? (How to identify it) 3. Relationship of data, information and knowledge. 4. How does one collect or engineer knowledge? (Collection mechanism) 5. Mathematical representation of knowledge. (Formula with rationale) 6. Software and Hardware relationships to knowledge. 7. How to represent knowledge? (ex: What form or which computer language) 8. Difference between knowledge engineer and knowledge scientist. 9. Methods of controlling knowledge. 10. Who should have access to knowledge within an organization? 11. Relationship of networking to knowledge. 12. Fifth generation concept of knowledge. 13. General comments on knowledge. Charles E. Woodall (SNAIL MAIL) BOQ Box 122 Ft. Monmouth, NJ 07703 Office: (201)544-3294 Home: (201)389-3598 (ARPA/MILNet) [woodall]:AMSEL-SDSC at CECOM-1.ARP ------------------------------ Date: 8-Apr-85 14:21 PST From: William Daul - Augmentation Systems - McDnD From: <WBD.TYM@OFFICE-2.ARPA> Subject: Request for information on FILENET To: info-nets%mit-oz@mit-mc.arpa Has anyone heard of this? Can you send me either information or an address/phone number? What is FILENET? Thanks, --Bi// ------------------------------ From: DonWinter.pasa@Xerox.ARPA Date: 9 Apr 85 15:57:09 PST Subject: Re: Request for information on FILENET To: William Daul - Augmentation Systems - McDnD<WBD.TYM@OFFICE-2.ARPA> Cc: info-nets%mit-oz@mit-mc.ARPA FILENET is a microfilm replacement system based on scanners and optical disks. They are based in Orange County, CA (Costa Mesa?), and include Jack Shemer and Doug Stewart, former Xerox employees, as principals. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Apr 85 8:06:00 EST From: Stephen Wolff <steve@BRL-TGR.ARPA> Subject: Digital Utility Centers (HND:8#13) The credibility of the quoted "Compute!" article, already severely strained by the stench of its Sunday-supplement, gee-whiz style, its "Experts predict..." cop-out as well as copious other journalistic ugliness, finally snaps with "..very-high-speed satellite channels that support two-way instantaneous transmission of voices,...." No prophet. No visionary. Just another hack, paid by the word, with a deadline to meet. Technical nincompoopery. I suppose I'm happy with the notion that the folk who believe trash like this are the natural and legitimate prey of those who peddle it. While I might argue about the regulation of physically addictive drugs, there's no question that anyone who wants this kind of mind- numbing intellectual dope should be allowed to buy it. ------------------------------ Date: Wed 3 Apr 85 17:14:08-PST From: WYLAND@SRI-KL.ARPA Subject: The Home Computer This was generated in response to Wayne McGuire's comments on Digital Utility Centers. (HUMAN-NETS V8 #13, Wed 20 Mar 85) The home computer market may, indeed, go the way of the video game market bust. The primary problem is that nobody needs one: There is no pressing problem in the home for which a home computer is - at present - the solution. There may be a market for (computer based) device which can automatically scan and analyze news and magazine copy to reduce the amount of time the average person spends trying to keep up with and understand events. The counter argument is that the home computer may become the new typewriter: a business machine that is cheap enough (assumed) and useful enough to be a common home item. THE PERSONAL BUSINESS COMPUTER VERSUS THE HOME COMPUTER The personal computer is great for work, not home. At work, the personal computer fills real, commonly encountered business needs. Word processing allows you to write and easily revise lengthy reports and specifications - without having to retype it every time. Spreadsheet processing allows you to easily handle most commonly encountered numerical problems such as cost estimates, financial analyses, and financial projections - without having to resort to the calculator and the columnar accounting pad. Word processing and spreadsheets are probably the real business applications that justify purchasing the personal computer as a productivity improvement tool: Word processing and spreadsheet processing probably account for 80-90% of actual personal computer use. (My opinion, based on observation of actual personal computer use by technical and non-technical types, as a percentage of hours of time the user spends at the keyboard while these programs run.) The remaining applications tend to be "gravy" or special cases. Unless you have your business at home - including being a writer, an accountant, a full time/heavy duty investor, or a programmer, etc. - there is no home application to justify a $1000-3000 personal computer. For example: * Video games are available much cheaper and better from Atari. * Recipes are better filed on index cards. * A calculator is probably better for your once-a-year tax return. * Your Christmas card list is not THAT big. * A note pad works just fine for a shopping list * A calculator is better for balancing your checkbook In general, you can't use the capabilities of the computer - word processing, spreadsheets, database management, etc. - heavily enough to justify laying out an amount of money equivalent to a used car or two weeks in Tahiti. There are two exceptions: students and fun. College students and high school students intending on college have to crank out a lot of reports and papers. The word processing capability of the personal computer can usually justify its purchase for this use: the price of the personal computer system is a small percentage of the cost of four years of college, and if it improves the student's performance, it is potentially a good investiment. The other reason for buying a personal computer is fun (and image). This is the fad market. Spending thousands of dollars on a stereo system, a car, a boat, etc., is common. These items are bought because they are enjoyed: the payback in enjoyment justifies the investiment. In this case, a personal computer is a much less expensive hobby than a ski boat or a sports car, for example. If you enjoy playing with a computer, you don't need any other reason for purchasing one. However, the fad market is volatile: we have seen a boom-and-bust cycle in video games. Unless there is a real application in the home to provide a stable market base, the home portion of the personal computer market can go through the same cycle. The business portion of the market does not have this problem: business word processing and spreadsheets are real applications. We, the net users and believers in computers, have a solution, the personal computer, looking for a problem - in the home. Making the system more elegant, user friendly, having more and better I/O devices (VCR's, modems to bulletin boards, etc.) gives you a better solution, but not the definition of the problem that needs the solution. Adding features to a product will not help you if you do not have a customer with a problem to solve. THE HOME COMPUTER: WHAT IS IT GOOD FOR? All right, IS there a home computer application? Well, maybe. The question to be answered is of the form, "is there any task in the home which can benefit from information processing and which is currently significant in time and effort, measured in hours per week?" Only one opportunity comes to mind: the news. We spend a significant amount of time on the news: watching it on TV, reading the paper, and reading magazines, both general and special interest. It would be nice to have a programmable news analyzer: a machine that would read the UPI, etc. reports on the news and select those of interest based on an algorithm *I* define - and change. It would also go back into background files and put together a report to back up the story if the defined interest level were high enough, etc. I would pay some money for such a box which to allows me to gain an active control over the flood of data that bombards me daily. Part of the reason I subscribe to magazines is because they provide these data preselection and background fill functions. How much better it would be if I could interactively tailor these functions rather than settle for what the magazine gives me this month. This is a real problem in the home which can be solved by something that looks a lot like a personal computer. Not that there aren't problems yet to be solved: the box requires the solution of an artificial intellegence type of problem of the same class as literature searches, a tough problem with no simple, universal solution as yet. Wait until next year. THE COUNTER ARGUMENT Predictions of the demise of the home computer market may be premature. It is clear that the business market is not going to go away; likewise, the student market will remain also. Perhaps the personal computer is the new typewriter: essentially a business tool that is common in the home because of its accepted utility. It, like the typewriter, is accepted as the obvious tool if you have any reasonably serious writing to do. When the price of a PC with disks and printer is approximately the same as a conventional electric typewriter (Two years? Three?) the home market may be defined by default. The final home computer may be your friendly portable TV, the prototype "electronic utility center." You can already buy a portable typewriter with the RS-232 port built-in for $229 (Brother AS-44 at Montgomery Ward). All that is needed is for JVC or Panasonic, etc. to come out with a portable TV/AM-FM/tape deck/CD player/VCR/PC compatible computer with a built-in floppy pair, a detachable keyboard, a printer/modem jack, and WordStar and Lotus in ROM - and available at your local K-Mart for $399! ------------------------------ End of HUMAN-NETS Digest ************************