[net.usenix] proposed alternate schedule

george@idis.UUCP (06/16/83)

	   Tentative Conference Schedule
		    as of June 9
		(reference: hcr.432)

w1		      OPENING
w2			___
w3	PROG TOOLS	 |	UNIX IMPLEM
w4			_|
h1	user interf	 |_
h2			_|	COMP & LANG
h3	UNIX IMPLEM	_|_
h4	UNIX DIREC	_|_	(bof)
f1	net		_|_	applic
f2	mail		_|_	std, valid, port
f3	(applic)	_|_	(systems)
f4		x	 |	    x


Above is a schematic of the tentative conference schedule posted earlier.
The left and right columns indicate concurrent sessions.
The parenthesised topics are reserved times for which specific talks
have not been pre-scheduled.  The topic "x" indicates an unscheduled time.

I consider the topics of UNIX, C, and tools to be of general interest.
I consider the other topics to be of more special interest.
In the schematic the general interest topics are printed in upper case.
The special interest topics are printed in lower case.

Notice the large number of temporal conflicts among the topics
of general interest.  I consider this very unfortunate.
I am therefore proposing an alternate schedule in which
general interest topics are not held simultaneously.
Its schematic is below.


	Proposed Three Day Conference Schedule

w1		      OPENING
w2			___
w3	PROG TOOLS	 |	user interf
w4			_|_
h1	UNIX IMPLEM	 |_	applic
h2			 |_	(applic)
h3			 |_	std, valid, port
h4			_|_	(bof)
f1	COMP & LANG	 |_	net
f2			_|_	mail
f3	UNIX DIREC	_|_	(systems)
f4		x	 |	    x



The announcement (via U.S. mail) from Rogal Boston indicated
that the Software Tools Users' Group technical presentations
were all to be held Tuesday evening 7:00 pm - 11:00 pm.
If they are not going to utilize the daytime on Tuesday,
then Usenix might use it to reduce the number
of concurrent sessions.


	Proposed Four Day Conference Schedule

t1		x	_|
t2	std, valid, port_|	    x
t3	UNIX DIREC	_|
t4		x	_|_
t5		s.t.u.g. presentations
t6			___
w1		      OPENING
w2			___
w3	PROG TOOLS	 |_	(bof 1)
w4			_|_	    x
h1	UNIX IMPLEM	 |_	applic
h2			 |_	(applic)
h3			 |_	    x
h4			_|_	(bof 2)
f1	COMP & LANG	 |_	net
f2			_|_	mail
f3	(systems)	_|	    x
f4		x	 |


Note that I added a second "birds of a feather" session
in the above four day schedule.

If the reserved sessions, "bof", "systems", and the second "applic"
are ignored, a nearly full four day schedule with no concurrent
sessions is possible.  Although I do not like the use of concurrent
sessions, I prefer the above proposed four day schedule,
which has some free time and also accounts for those reserved sessions.

I encourage discussion of this, in hopes of its having
an influence on the conference organizers.


		George Rosenberg
		duke!mcnc!idis!george
		decvax!idis!george

laura@utcsstat.UUCP (06/19/83)

George Rosenburg's 4 day Usenix schedule appeals to me very much. However,
unless I am mistaken, it totally ignores the "User Interface 1 & 2" talks.
Here it is for those of you who havent seen the original article yet.

	Proposed Four Day Conference Schedule
		(George Rosenburg)             

t1		x	_|
t2	std, valid, port_|	    x
t3	UNIX DIREC	_|
t4		x	_|_
t5		s.t.u.g. presentations
t6			___
w1		      OPENING
w2			___
w3	PROG TOOLS	 |_	(bof 1)
w4			_|_	    x
h1	UNIX IMPLEM	 |_	applic
h2			 |_	(applic)
h3			 |_	    x
h4			_|_	(bof 2)
f1	COMP & LANG	 |_	net
f2			_|_	mail
f3	(systems)	_|	    x
f4		x	 |

However, this can be remedied by adding them to the Tuesday sessions
where there are already 2 slots open. (Well, actually there are 3
slots, but I am aiming for a usenix with few concurrent sessions.)

Given that you want to keep the two sessions together you can shuffle
the proposed sessions for Tuesday to keep them back to back. Given that
I have done that, it seems to me that I might as well put the OPENING
as the first thing on Tuesday, so we can open with the OPENING.
I am also going to put the Open Session on Applications back opposite
the Open session on systems, since otherwise poor Ian Darwin who is
chairing the Open Session on Applications wont get to see the Unix
Implementation Talks.

Ok? Here it is. I cant really take credit for it, since George Rosenburg
has done the hard part, but how about the:

	Joint Creighton/Rosenburg Usenix Proposal

t1                    OPENING
t2		        ___
t3 	UNIX DIRECTIONS _|    
t4 	std, valid, port_|	
t5		s.t.u.g. presentations   /* this is at 1900; there is lots of */
t6			___		 /* time to eat dinner */
w1	user interface   |_         x
w2			_|_         x
w3	PROG TOOLS	 |_	(bof 1)
w4			_|_	    x
h1	UNIX IMPLEM	 |_	    x	
h2			 |_	    x    
h3			 |_	    x
h4			_|_	(bof 2)
f1	COMP & LANG	 |_	   net
f2			_|_	   mail
f3	 systems 	_|	  applic
f4	(systems)	_|	 (applic)

Actually, the Birds of a Feather Groups, since they are going to have to
know who they are anyway, can schedule meetings opposite whatever they 
feel convienient, so the "(bof)" slots can be viewed as merely an attempt
to show when the "bof" sessions *could* be held.

I invite comment or criticism, again in the hope of it having an influence
on the actual proceedings.

Laura Creighton
utzoo!utcsstat!laura

grw@fortune.UUCP (06/20/83)

	Although I have not attended a UN*X convention before, it
    seems to me unwise to make a schedule in which all of your
    choices are general interest topics vs. limited interest topics.
    I would think there is quite an advantage to having a choice
    between two topics, both of limited interest, where one or
    the other would be a clear favorite.  I like the schedule as
    originally posted.
	But what do I know?

					-Glenn R. Wichman

mark@hp-kirk.UUCP (06/23/83)

#R:idis:-21100:hp-kirk:15900002:000:662
hp-kirk!mark    Jun 21 06:42:00 1983

Given the heavy demand on the technical sessions which results in considerable
overbooking or restrictions on attendance, it is possible that the concurrent
sessions were not seen as a problem but rather as a partial solution since
this would  give an opportunity of session attendance to the greatest number
of people (nobody could attend two sessions).  I don't know that I am in
agreement with this but I would like to know if this was indeed the case.
Anybody know?  Is there a better way?
                                        Death Rowe
                                        hp-pcd!hp-cvd!mark
                                        Corvallis, Oregon