jdg@pthya.UUCP (b0ce Jim Gregory) (02/07/85)
I am currently working on a project that will be running
INGRES on a Berkeley release of UNIX. In the past, my
work has basically been with Bell System UNIX releases.
Can anyone point me towards any type of documentation that
will clarify the differences between Berkeley and AT&T
versions of UNIX???
** Also, I have heard that Berkeley is developing, or has
developed a UNIX release that emulates AT&T System V.
Is this true??
Thanks very much.
--
Jim Gregory
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Pacific Bell, Hayward, Californiascherrer@mtxinu.UUCP (Deborah Scherrer) (02/13/85)
> Can anyone point me towards any type of documentation that > will clarify the differences between Berkeley and AT&T > versions of UNIX??? There is a paper by John Chambers and John Quarterman titled ``UNIX System V and 4.1C BSD'' which compares the two systems. The paper was given at the Toronto USENIX Conference and also appears in the Toronto proceedings. (THe Proceedings are purchasable from the USENIX Office.) At one time the paper was also online at decvax, seismo, ut-ngp, and ut-sally for copying with uucp, as ~uucp/compare (a description) and ~uucp/compare.[123] (the paper, 15 pages per file). It was also available over the ARPANET from utexas-11 as ~ftp/compare.doc (login ftp, password guest, retrieve ./compare.doc). At one time Quarterman and Chambers claimed "There will probably be a later version called ``UNIX System V and 4.2BSD'' when we get a 4.2 tape. That version will also contain revisions according to comments we received at USENIX and after; the present version does not, as we cannot work on it now but nonetheless wish to satisfy the numerous requests for copies." For further information: John Chambers John Quarterman ihnp4!ut-ngp!ut-sally!jbc ihnp4!ut-ngp!ut-sally!jsq jbc@utexas-11.ARPA jsq@utexas-11.ARPA 409-761-1813 512-454-2668
jsq@ut-sally.UUCP (John Quarterman) (02/14/85)
<Apologies for reposting this so soon after I posted it the other week.
Evidently it was missed by some the first time, and this time it is being
posted to net.usenix as well. I've put in a Followup-To: net.usenix.>
Path: ut-sally!jbc
From: jbc@ut-sally.UUCP (John B. Chambers)
Newsgroups: net.unix
Subject: Bell/Berkeley comparisons
Message-ID: <3189@ut-sally.UUCP>
Date: Fri, 24-Aug-84 10:56:49 CDT
Date-Received: Fri, 24-Aug-84 10:56:49 CDT
Organization: MCC, Austin, TX
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To address several issues which continue to arise ....
1. We have presented two papers comparing "Bell UNIX" and "Berkeley UNIX":
"UNIX System III and 4.1BSD, A Practical Comparison"
(Winter 1983 USENIX Conference, San Diego)
"UNIX System V and 4.1C BSD"
(Summer 1983 USENIX Conference, Toronto)
Contrary to popular rumor, we have presented nothing comparing:
4.1 BSD and 4.2 BSD
System V and 4.1 BSD
System V and 4.2 BSD
System V Release 2 and anything
The Toronto paper obliquely referenced the state of 4.2 BSD at that
time. It does not necessarily correspond in all details to the actual
system which was distributed some time later.
2. The paper "UNIX System V and 4.1C BSD" is marked
(c) Copyright 1983 by the Regents of the University of Texas.
solely in order to prevent its sale by anyone other than the USENIX
Association. The paper may be distributed free of cost in any quantity,
by any means and by any entity so long as the whole paper, in one of
the forms originally distributed by us, including the copyright notice,
is distributed. Properly attributed quotations in reviews and other
papers are of course also permitted.
The paper is available in the Proceedings of the Summer 1983 USENIX
Conference, by anonymous FTP as compare.doc from ut-sally.ARPA, and by
UUCP from ut-sally.UUCP and several other UUCP sites; it was also posted
to net.sources on USENET.
To use anonymous ftp, connect with ftp to ut-sally,
login as anonymous, password guest, and get or retrieve
compare.doc. The authors are no longer associated with
utexas-11 (which is now known as ut-ngp, anyway), but
principally with ut-sally (which happens to be the
VAX-11/780 referred to in the paper).
We would rather not have to mail out individual copies to everyone in
the world. Get it from your neighbor if you can. If there is still
demand we might post to net.sources again.
3. We feel that questions of comparative performance were adequately
treated at the Salt Lake City USENIX Conference, particularly in:
"UNIX System V and 4BSD Performance"
Jeffrey P. Lankford, AT&T Bell Laboratories
"Measuring and Improving the Performance of 4.2BSD"
Sam Leffler (Lucasfilm, Ltd),
Mike Karels, and M. Kirk McKusick (U.C. Berkeley)
It is therefore not our intention at this time to distribute the
results of any such studies which we ourselves may have conducted.
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Current addresses:
John B. Chambers John S. Quarterman
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CSNET: jbc@ut-sally jsq@ut-sally
UUCP: ihnp4!ut-sally!jbc ihnp4!ut-sally!jsq
USPS: MCC Department of Computer Sciences
9430 Research Blvd. University of Texas at Austin
Echelon I, Suite 200 Austin, Texas 78712
Austin, TX 78759
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UNIX is a trademark of Bell Telephone Laboratories, Inc.
VAX is a trademark of Digital Equipment Corporation.
--
John Quarterman, CS Dept., University of Texas, Austin, Texas 78712 USA
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