lab@qubix.UUCP (Q-Bick) (02/18/84)
Saratoga Slick is back, with a different game and a new bug. Behold: 4.1c BSD backgammon _________________________________________ (folded for clarity) | | | | Game value 2. |13 14 15 16 17 18| |19 20 21 22 23 24| White doubled last. | w | | | rrr | | | | rrr White rolls 5 3 and moves | | | | rrr 18-15,7-2 | | | | rrr Red rolls 6 1. Move: | | | | rrr 24/6,24/1 | |BAR| | Gammon! Red wins 4 points. | | | | ww | | | | ww | | | | ww | | | w| ww | | | w w| www |12 11 10 9 8 7| | 6 5 4 3 2 1| ***Is this REALLY Gammon?*** |_________________|___|_________________| Amusing (only because I won) side note: White had had an 11-0 lead in men cast off. Red had two guys sitting on White's Ace, waiting for a blot. None occurred so Red was forced to consolidate his home table some more. Finally, he could no longer handle the throw in his home table, so one of his back men was moved. White hit the blot on 1, and left another on 2, with two men on 3. Red rolled snake-eyes. White needed 3 turns to get the first guy off the bar. Two turns later, his man still on the bar got some company again, courtesy of a steamrolling Red. Red got double-6 on his next turn, but White still needed several turns to get both men back on. White never got another man off. Once down 0-11, Red won 15-11. "The opera isn't over till the fat lady sings." -- Washington Bullets Coach Dick Motta, when Seattle held a 3-2 in the best-of-7 series (which Washington won 4-3) -- The Ice Floe of the Q-Bick {ucbvax,ihnp4}!{decwrl,amd70}!qubix!lab decwrl!qubix!lab@Berkeley.ARPA
rjnoe@ihlts.UUCP (Roger Noe @ N41:48.5, W88:07.2) (02/19/84)
No, the position given is not gammon--white had one or more pieces off. Roger Noe ihnp4!ihlts!rjnoe
wildbill@ucbvax.UUCP (William J. Laubenheimer) (03/28/84)
Nope. The gammon and backgammon multipliers are only in effect if the losing player \\has not borne off any men//. The position of the remaining men is irrelevant - white can have one man borne off and the other 14 on the bar, and it is still no backgammon. Also, you can have all of your men in your own inner table, but if your opponent bears off all his men before you take one off, that is a gammon. Thus, this position is not a gammon. Bill Laubenheimer ----------------------------------------UC-Berkeley Computer Science ...Killjoy WAS here! ucbvax!wildbill
ech@spuxll.UUCP (Ned Horvath) (03/31/84)
Oops! wrong! A backgammon is not necessarily a gammon: the latter occurs when one player has borne off no men; the former when a player is left with one or more men on the bar or on the opponent's home board. It is possible to have borne men off (avoiding gammon) and still be backgammoned. =Ned=