[net.games] Cribbage Hand

tc@amd70.UUCP (Tom Crawford) (04/03/84)

How would you score the following cribbage hand?

		7H 7S 8H 9D       6C

			Tom Crawford
			...amd70!tc

notes@zeppo.UUCP (04/04/84)

#R:amd70:-449500:zeppo:7200001:000:239
zeppo!mmc    Apr  3 16:53:00 1984

>	How would you score the following cribbage hand?
>
>			7H 7S 8H 9D       6C
>
>				Tom Crawford
>				...amd70!tc


	pair of 7s	 2
	15  7H-8H	 2
	15  7S-8H	 2
	15  9D-6C	 2
	run 6-7H-8-9	 4
	run 7-7S-8-9	 4
	------------------
	total		16

jay@rochester.UUCP (Jay Weber) (04/04/84)

7H,8H - 15 for 2 (2),
7S,8H - 15 for 2 (4),
9D,6C - 15 for 2 (6),
7H,7S - pair for 2 (8),
6C,7H,8H,9D - run for 4 (12),
6C,7S,8H,9D - run for 4 (16).

Total = 16

Jay Weber
jay@rochester.arpa
..!seismo!rochester!jay

halle1@houxz.UUCP (J.HALLE) (04/06/84)

Lot's of mistakes in the article this is a followup to.  Here are corrections:

	Further tricky hands:

	    Hand        Name                          Value
	    2 2 3 4 x   double run of three           8
Could be more, depending on the value of x

	    2 2 3 3 4   double-double run of three    14
The value is 16, not 14.  4*3 + 2*2

	    2 2 2 3 4   triple run of three           18
The value is 15, not 18.  3*3 for the runs + 6 for the triple (3 pairs)

	All of which points out, cribbage is a game won or lost because
	of double runs.  (A little luck don't hurt none either!)
Double runs help, but careful discarding and accurate play are more important.
Luck really has little to do with it.  (But it don't hurt.)

	************
	* QUESTION *
	************

	What is the best possible cribbage hand?  No fair looking it
	up in Hoyle's...even I could do that!
It depends on who is dealer.  If you are dealer, four 5's in hand with a Jack
turned up.  If you are not dealer, three 5's and the Jack of the fourth suit
in hand, the other 5 turned up.

Believe it or not, I have seen this hand.  I nearly won by getting four 6's
and a 3 (24 points) when on the next hand my opponent got the 29er to win.

	  Chip Rosenthal, Intel/Santa Clara
	  {pur-ee,hplabs,ucbvax!amd70,ogcvax!omsvax}!intelca!t4test!{chip,news}

daf@ihu1g.UUCP (Dewey Frech) (04/07/84)

.
I must disagree with an earlier posting:

>Further tricky hands:
>
>    Hand        Name                          Value
>    2 2 3 4 x   double run of three           8
>    2 2 3 3 4   double-double run of three    14 
>    2 2 2 3 4   triple run of three           18 

The problem is the a double double run of three is 16, and a triple
run of three is 15.  Not 14 and 18 as posted.

Dewey Frech	..!ihnp4!ihu1g!daf  AT&T Bell Laboratories  Naperville IL

lynch@wivax.UUCP (Robert Lynch) (04/07/84)

<@#$%^&*(   <take that line eater> 

The best cribbage hand possible is receiving three fives and a J in your
hand and the 5 of the J's suit as the starter. (ex. JS,5C,5D,5H  [5S]) 
               
           Combination                       Points
           -----------                       ------
       J with all of the fives                  8
       15's generated by the fives              8
       Six pairs made with the fives           12
       Jack matching the starter's suit         1
                                              ---
                                      Total=   29

28 can also be generated by receiving four fives in your hand and any
face card or 10 as the starter.

                                            Bob Lynch
                                          {decvax, linus}!wivax!lynch
 

leblanc@ucbvax.UUCP (Emile LeBlanc) (04/08/84)

x

A double-double run has always been 16 the way I count it.
Also a triple run is 15.  (I could explain these if anyone desires).

					    Emile LeBlanc
					    (ucbvax!leblanc)
					    (leblanc@Berkeley.ARPA)

dhb@rayssd.UUCP (04/13/84)

As a long time cribbage player (> 20 years) I have to disagreee
with the scorings posted by Chip Rosenthal.  A double-double run
of three is 16 points, not 14, and a triple run of three is 15,
not eighteen.  Theses values are obtained as follows:

	double-double run of three: 2h 2c 3h 3c 4c
		2h 3h 4c = 3 points
		2h 3h 4c = 3 points
		2c 3c 4c = 3 points
		2c 3c 4c = 3 points
		2c 2h    = 2 points
		3c 3h    = 2 points
		total    = 16 points
	
	triple run of three: 2c 2h 2s 3c 4c
		2c 3c 4c = 3 points
		2h 3c 4c = 3 points
		2s 3c 4c = 3 points
		2c 2h 2s = 6 points
		total    = 15 points

I don't know where Chip came up with his numbers, but the ones I
have are the correct ones.  As for the question about the best
possible hand, I assumed that every serious player knew that the
best possible hand was three fives and the jack of the fourth suit
in the hand with the fourth five being cut, giving a total of
twenty-nine points.
-- 
	Dave Brierley
	Raytheon Co.; Portsmouth RI; (401)-847-8000 x4073
	...!decvax!brunix!rayssd!dhb
	...!allegra!rayssd!dhb
	...!linus!rayssd!dhb

marka@uo-vax1.UUCP (04/16/84)

Off the top of my head I get:

 5H 5C 5S JD   5D

for 6 pair   = 12;
4 5/J 15's   =  8;
4 5-5-5 15's =  8;
JD<-->5D     =  1; 

	      =====
		29

Correct???

mark aitken

{hp-pcd,tektronix,hpcvra}!uoregon!marka

donnelly@uiuccsb.UUCP (04/25/84)

#R:amd70:-449500:uiuccsb:7700003:000:139
uiuccsb!donnelly    Apr 25 10:50:00 1984

Don't you get 2 points for turning up the Jack on the cut when
you deal?  I would guess the best hand to be == 30

Hand: 5 5 5 5
turnup: J

toma@fluke.UUCP (Tom Anderson) (04/26/84)

never mind.

rob@ctvax.UUCP (04/26/84)

#R:amd70:-449500:ctvax:35000002:000:812
ctvax!rob    Apr 26 10:34:00 1984

"Two for his heels" (i.e. dealer scores two for turning up a jack on the
cut) is not considered part of the score for the hand.

Let's start something else, what's the fastest crib game you've played?
Years ago a friend and I played one in 9 minutes. That's twice round the
board (121 points to win), one deck, players pegging their own scores.

I know it was nine minutes, because we had a clock-watching ogre for a 
boss who didn't like us playing cards at lunch-time. We started at
12:51 and finished on time and went back to being good little
programmers.

Speed cribbage is a silly idea, but give it a try sometime you're
feeling jaded.

"They'll get my crib board when they peel my cold dead fingers off
 the pegs."

Rob Spray
uucp:    ... {decvax!cornell!|ucbvax!nbires!|{allegra|ihnp4}!convex!}ctvax!rob

malcolm@utcsrgv.UUCP (Malcolm MacPhail) (04/27/84)

If you turn up a J you do get the 2 points,
but the 2 points are considered as 'pegging points'
not as part of your hand.  The best possible hand
is 29 points as already mentioned.

		From my place /\
			      []    Malcolm

lab@qubix.UUCP (Q-Bick) (04/27/84)

His Heels is scored before play, and thus is not part of "the hand."

BTW, a Saratoga Slick followup on 4bsd cribbage and four-flushes:
I finally found Earl Cohen at mordor and verified it works in the
non-full-screen version (4.1 and 4.1c). It is buggy only in the 4.2
visual version. Are you listening, Ken Arnold?
-- 
				The Ice Floe of Larry Bickford
				{decvax,ihnp4,ucbvax}!{decwrl,sun}!qubix!lab
				decwrl!qubix!lab@Berkeley.ARPA

gleason@asgmka.DEC (Daryl Gleason, MKO1-2/G37, 264-2545) (04/28/84)

In response to "decwrl!decvax!harpo!ihnp4!inuxc!pur-ee!uiucdcs!uiuccsb!
donnelly", yes, you do get 2 points for turning up a Jack on the cut when you
deal (granted that your opponent has cut the cards for you!).  The best 
possible hand in cribbage is 29.


			*** Daryl and Kristy Gleason ***