[net.games] Hack comments + questions

avr@CS-Mordred (01/09/85)

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	(somewhat)
	You may not want to read this if you haven't got very far
in Hack ..

	Well, 3 days after installing Hack and suffering
thru a bunch of *very* short games, I made it to lvl 28
and back.

	Random comments:

	I ate an L early and used that to rob shopkeepers blind.
With all the enchant armors I had, I would up with AC -7. Never
took off anything for Rs. On the way back, I killed all the
shopkeepers I saw, heh heh. Also, I identified a ring of teleport 
control later .. that's what caused the big game, I guess. It's 
great. Once I read magic mapping, and there was a vault on the level
(I suspect every level has a vault) .. so I teleported into
the vault, picked up $$$$ and left (after first trying to
kill the guard, which didn't work). Also, I encountered/killed 
all but (I think) 'c' 'g' ':' ',' 'w' (wumpus) and 'u'.
I didn't find the only demon I faced any trouble; dragons were
wimpy except when they roasted me (and other monsters!). And
once on a deep level I quaffed monster detection and saw a segment
of the dungeon absolutely congested with monsters .. just crawling all
over with real nasties, it was unbelievable. So I left. No
guts to fight *that* crowd. Although I was slaughtering everything,
for once, sigh. Sometimes I was just surrounded '%'s. 
A cute trick: lead a string of Orcs after you into a teleport ^,
and watch them pop off somewhere. Amusing ..

I have some questions:

	Is there anyway to get in/out of vaults (other than
some kind of teleport + ring of teleport control) non-randomly?

	Is there anything special about lurkers above and nurses ?

	What does a worm tooth do ?

	and the big one: in lvl 28, where the maze started (neat
stuff!), I quaffed object detection, and found the amulet. Well,
I marked the spot on the crt and made for there pronto. But
there was a rock over it in such a position that I couldn't
move the rock, and so I couldn't retrieve the amulet. What's
the deal ? Come to think of it, should I have applied the
worm tooth to dig or something ?


				Andrew Royappa
		{ihnp4, pur-ee, decvax, ucbvax}!purdue!avr

robert@gitpyr.UUCP (Robert Viduya) (01/11/85)

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> And > once on a deep level I quaffed monster detection and saw a segment
> of the dungeon absolutely congested with monsters .. just crawling all
> over with real nasties, it was unbelievable. So I left. No
> guts to fight *that* crowd.

Monster congestion like that is called a 'zoo'.  I think some machine-run
person in the dungeon named 'David' handles all the zoos.  They're similar
to shops.

> 	Is there anyway to get in/out of vaults (other than
> some kind of teleport + ring of teleport control) non-randomly?

A wand of digging ought to help.

> 	Is there anything special about lurkers above and nurses ?

I believe eating a nurse puts you to max hp.  It also aggravates all monsters
on the current level.

> 	What does a worm tooth do ?

A sharpened worm tooth becomes a crysknife.  See DUNE for more details.

			robert
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lat@stcvax.UUCP (Larry Tepper) (01/12/85)

> From: avr@CS-Mordred
> I have some questions:
> 
> 	Is there anyway to get in/out of vaults (other than
> some kind of teleport + ring of teleport control) non-randomly?

Yes.  There is also a wand of digging, which you can use to
build your own tunnels.  I used it to make another
exit out of a shop once.
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carlton@masscomp.UUCP (Carlton Hommel) (01/14/85)

In article <3@gitpyr.UUCP> robert@gitpyr.UUCP (Robert Viduya) writes:
>> And once on a deep level I quaffed monster detection and saw a segment
>> of the dungeon absolutely congested with monsters 
>Monster congestion like that is called a 'zoo'.  I think some machine-run
>person in the dungeon named 'David' handles all the zoos.
Unless your friendly implementor changes the code, only login id's called
"david" ever see treasure zoos.

>> 	Is there anything special about lurkers above and nurses ?
>I believe eating a nurse puts you to max hp.  It also aggravates all monsters
>on the current level.
Eating a nurse aggravates all monsters, forever.  It also removes any
telepathic ability you get from eating a floating eye.  Far better to remove
all armor and wield nothing around them.

>> 	What does a worm tooth do ?
>A sharpened worm tooth becomes a crysknife.  See DUNE for more details.
You sharpen a worm tooth by reading the right scroll over it.  Don't drop it,
though.  A crysknife does 1d12 damage to both large and small monsters,
far superior to both 2-H and long swords.

	Carl Hommel
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Wife:  Well, I want to read net.kids now.