[net.games] Wizardry1 back-ups

perelgut@utai.UUCP (Stephen Perelgut) (01/09/86)

I just purchased Wizardry1 (based on good reviews) and I now discover
that you can't back-up the MASTER diskette.  In fact, the game is designed
so that you play off a SCENARIO diskette, only inserting the MASTER once 
at the beginning.  I can use MacTool and CopyIIMac to make SCENARIO versions,
but nothing I have seems to show any difference between the SCENARIO and
MASTER diskette.  I would really prefer to lock my originals away under plastic
and use pseudo-masters.  Then I feel "safe".
	1) How do I make a back-up MASTER?
	2) How did SIr-Tech manage to create such a tough file protection?
-- 
Stephen Perelgut    Computer Systems Research Institute, University of Toronto

ekblaw@uiucdcs.CS.UIUC.EDU (01/11/86)

Frankly, I have been playing Wizardry for three years now, and the only thing
that I find wrong with using the Master is that my label was coming off and
gumming up the disk drive.

For God's sake, why would you buy the thing only to store it away in plastic
like a museum piece!  Sheesh, I think the "copying craze" has gone overboard.
I perrsonally know of a perrson who has 16 (yes, I counted them) copies of the
same disk, of which maybe only 2 or 3 are ever used.  To my mind, excess copies
only waste money, disks, and storage space.

The reason for not being able to copy the master is obvious -- so that a person
must buy the master in order to play the game.  It is an ingenious method to
stop piracy, as I know of no method to completely copy the master (some friends
of mine have tried, to no avail).  Frankly, my advise is not to bother.  If
you want to keep a beautiful looking copy of the master to stare at from within
plastic, take off the stickers/labels from your master and place them on the
appropriate places of a blank diskette and place THAT in plastic.  If you do
this carefully enough, you won't damage the stickers, and it will look just 
like the Wizardry master.

Robert A. Ekblaw

bill@crystal.UUCP (Bill Cox) (01/11/86)

>                    I can use MacTool and CopyIIMac to make SCENARIO versions,
> but nothing I have seems to show any difference between the SCENARIO and
> MASTER diskette.

Please specify which version of Copy II Mac (and any other software you
refer to) when describing problems, questions, etc.

We can save several hundred bytes sent all around the world if everyone
does this.

Regarding backup problems:  specify CopyII version used (4.5 is current as
of a few days ago), and techniques used.

-- 
	William Cox
	Computer Sciences Department
	University of Wisconsin, Madison WI
	bill@wisc.crys.edu
	...{ihnp4,seismo,allegra}!uwvax!bill

jlc@afinitc.UUCP (Gerald Collins) (01/17/86)

put a write protect tab on the new disk after it has been created.  Give that a try.  I don't remember which copy program I
used but it was probably CopyWrite or Copy2pc.  Good Luck. Gerald.

dobro@ulowell.UUCP (Chet Dobro) (01/21/86)

> 	1) How do I make a back-up MASTER?
> 	2) How did SIr-Tech manage to create such a tough file protection?
> [Stephen Perelgut]

These are two of the great puzzles of those involved in
"Interactive Archival Expansion".

There a variety of backup programs available. Many give you the option of
setting certain parameters (track width, nibble-count-p, etc.).

There is published a list of what parameters go with what games. What backup
programs do you have? Maybe I (or someone else out there) has the correct
parameters for it.

Also check on the hacker's net.

Good luck.

							Gryphon



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ryan@ucla-cs.UUCP (01/23/86)

If i remember correctly (for the apple version) all you have to do is to
syncronize the tracks and do a nibble count (automatic has its advantages).
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