jrn@dcl-cs.UUCP (John R Nicol) (06/12/85)
I am a member of a distributed operating systems research group based at
Lancaster University, U.K. Since October 1983, the group has been designing
a distributed operating system called COSMOS.
COSMOS exhibits a high degree of logical coupling and is designed to
operate in a lan (local area network) based environment.
Would any other research workers/teams in the same field be interested
in setting up a new group (e.g. net.research.opsys) through which we would
be able to cooperate with each other by the mutual sharing of research
experience etc? If so, we would be happy to hear from you.
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Project:COSMOS Distributed Operating System | LA1 4YRjmg@cernvax.UUCP (jmg) (06/12/85)
In article <229@dcl-cs.UUCP> jrn@dcl-cs.UUCP (John R Nicol) writes: > > I am a member of a distributed operating systems research group based at >Lancaster University, U.K. Since October 1983, the group has been designing >a distributed operating system called COSMOS. > COSMOS exhibits a high degree of logical coupling and is designed to >operate in a lan (local area network) based environment. > Would any other research workers/teams in the same field be interested >in setting up a new group (e.g. net.research.opsys) through which we would >be able to cooperate with each other by the mutual sharing of research >experience etc? If so, we would be happy to hear from you. A very unfortunate choice of name. The Norsk Data equivalent of DECNET is called COSMOS, and has been so for a long time. It will shortly be available on top of Ethernet, so they tell me (you can sing that last phrase if you know the song). Is it too late to change names?
spaf@gatech.CSNET (Gene Spafford) (06/13/85)
In article <229@dcl-cs.UUCP> jrn@dcl-cs.UUCP (John R Nicol) writes: > > I am a member of a distributed operating systems research group based at >Lancaster University, U.K. Since October 1983, the group has been designing >a distributed operating system called COSMOS. > COSMOS exhibits a high degree of logical coupling and is designed to >operate in a lan (local area network) based environment. > Would any other research workers/teams in the same field be interested >in setting up a new group (e.g. net.research.opsys) through which we would >be able to cooperate with each other by the mutual sharing of research >experience etc? If so, we would be happy to hear from you. The Clouds project is addressing some of the same goals (and more). We would be interested in communicating with others about this field of study, but I don't think it would require a separate newsgroup. This kind of thing should fit within net.research (which isn't used much), or we can do it by setting up a mailing list. If there is a lot of sustained traffic, then we can create a new newsgroup. Lets establish a definite need first. -- Gene "3 months and holding" Spafford The Clouds Project, School of ICS, Georgia Tech, Atlanta GA 30332 CSNet: Spaf @ GATech ARPA: Spaf%GATech.CSNet @ CSNet-Relay.ARPA uucp: ...!{akgua,allegra,hplabs,ihnp4,linus,seismo,ulysses}!gatech!spaf
reiher@ucla-cs.UUCP (06/19/85)
In article <294@gatech.CSNET> spaf@gatech.UUCP (Gene Spafford) writes: >In article <229@dcl-cs.UUCP> jrn@dcl-cs.UUCP (John R Nicol) writes: >> >> I am a member of a distributed operating systems research group based at >>Lancaster University, U.K. Since October 1983, the group has been designing >>a distributed operating system called COSMOS. ... >> Would any other research workers/teams in the same field be interested >>in setting up a new group (e.g. net.research.opsys) through which we would >>be able to cooperate with each other by the mutual sharing of research >>experience etc? > >We would be interested in communicating with others about this field >of study, but I don't think it would require a separate newsgroup. >This kind of thing should fit within net.research (which isn't used >much), or we can do it by setting up a mailing list. > >If there is a lot of sustained traffic, then we can create a >new newsgroup. Lets establish a definite need first. I think that those of us at UCLA involved in the Locus project would be very interested in hearing about other research in distributed operating systems, and would like to discuss important issues we've come up against. I agree with Gene that net.research is a good place to start. If I get around to it, I'll try to post a brief description of what we've done and what we're planning on doing to net.research soon. -- Peter Reiher reiher@ucla-cs.arpa soon to be reiher@LOCUS.UCLA.EDU {...ihnp4,ucbvax,sdcrdcf}!ucla-cs!reiher
jrn@dcl-cs.UUCP (John R Nicol) (06/26/85)
In response to my orginal "New Group Request (Distributed Operating Systems)" article (see immediately below), here is a sample of some of the feedback that I have received over the last couple of weeks. > I am a member of a distributed operating systems research group based at >Lancaster University, U.K. Since October 1983, the group has been designing >a distributed operating system called COSMOS. > COSMOS exhibits a high degree of logical coupling and is designed to >operate in a lan (local area network) based environment. > Would any other research workers/teams in the same field be interested >in setting up a new group (e.g. net.research.opsys) through which we would >be able to cooperate with each other by the mutual sharing of research >experience etc? If so, we would be happy to hear from you. *************************** F E E D B A C K ******************************** Organisation: VU Informatica, Amstderdam Sender: cognito%uucp.tjalk%uk.ac.ukc%uucp.kcl-cs@ic-jlab We have our own experimental DOS, called Amoeba, up-and-running over here. Our own group consists of Andrew S. Tanenbaum, Sape Mullender, Henri Bal and me. I would like to know of other DOS's and their problems, and maybe share some of our own. Such a newsgroup could be very helpful. Organization: Encore Computer Corp. Original-Sender: chuckw <chuckw%uucp.babel@ukc> Sender: chuckw%uucp.babel%ukc@icdoc Status: R Count me in - I too have been working on a distributed OS for over three years. I would enjoy a newsgroup that discusses the issues, but I don't feel it is possible using a 'public' newsgroup. Why not just a private mailing list with the public knowing that there is such a mailing list available? This is much better since a lot of mail going over the network is just trash. Organization: MIT Project Athena Sender: jc%uucp.mit-athena%uk.ac.ukc%uucp.kcl-cs@ic-jlab Hi! Include me in your list of interested people. In case anyone is interested, I've been using a distributed OS of my own for about a year. It's lots of fun to build one, isn't it? I'll give you some of my ideas (and code) if you'll give me some of yours. Organization: Conic group, Dept of Computing, Imperial College, London. The Conic group at Imperial is also working in the same area, and would be glad to exchange views and results. Members:- Morris Sloman, Jeff Kramer, Jeff Magee, kevin Twidle, Naranker Dulay, Alan Dempster, Organisation: University of Maryland, Computer Science Dept. Original Sender: "tove.arpa!mark" <tove.arpa!mark%uucp.seismo@ukc> Sender: mark%tove.arpa%uucp.seismo%ukc@icdoc Setting up the new group sounds excellent to me. From: Omur Tasar <tasar@su-pescadero.arpa> Status: RO That is an excellent idea. I am a DEC engineer resident at Stanford working on the V distributed operating system. We are currently porting V to microvax based workstations and having lots of fun I must admit. Let me know how this "network news" will work. From: Mark Davoren <mark@cstvax.ed> Subject: distributed OSs (Edinburgh) ....... but I certainly want to speak to people in the field at a more in depth level than is usually found in news. Net.research.opsys would allow me to make contact with other researchers in this area. I am very interested in what is happening in the UK in doss and I would like to know more about the work you are doing. ******** A SUGGESTION FROM THE GROUP MODERATOR FOR net.research (?) ****** ******** Gene "3 months and holding" Spafford ***************************** Organization: The Clouds Project, School of ICS, Georgia Tech The Clouds project is addressing some of the same goals (and more). We would be interested in communicating with others about this field of study, but I don't think it would require a separate newsgroup. This kind of thing should fit within net.research (which isn't used much), or we can do it by setting up a mailing list. If there is a lot of sustained traffic, then we can create a new newsgroup. Lets establish a definite need first. ************* WHAT TO DO NEXT? *************** It seems to me that their is sufficient interest in the new group proposal to give it a try. However, as suggested above the other two main alternatives are: i) Use net.research as a starting point (which I feel is preferable to ii).....), and ii) Set up some form of private mailing list. The idea is that this list could be made public and any new interested parties could then join the list. (The disadvantages of this suggestion are: the problem of "advertising" the list in the right places so that people are aware of it, and the higher probability of sub-mailing lists taking over from the original "well-known" one). Well, these are the options - which one do we go for? As soon as a decision is made, we can start to take greater advantage of the network! -- UUCP: ...!seismo!mcvax!ukc!icdoc!dcl-cs!jrn DARPA: jrn%lancs.comp@ucl-cs | Post: University of Lancaster, JANET: jrn@uk.ac.lancs.comp | Department of Computing, Phone: +44 524 65201 Ext. 4146 | Bailrigg, Lancaster, UK. Project:COSMOS Distributed Operating System | LA1 4YR