rudy@bdmrrr.UUCP (Scott W. Rudy III) (10/08/85)
"Cheap Thrills"
I don't care
how many skydives
you've got, until
you have jumped into
total darkness
at 1000 feet with
95 lbs of equipment
and 63 lbs of parachute -
you just haven't _lived_!
SPECIAL FORCES
--
Scott W. Rudy III
The BDM Corporation WB5A
7915 Jones Branch Drive
McLean, VA 22102-3396
Usenet: {seismo,rlgvax}!bdmrrr!rudybrent@poseidon.UUCP (Brent P. Callaghan) (10/09/85)
>I don't care >how many skydives >you've got, until >you have jumped into >total darkness >at 1000 feet with >95 lbs of equipment >and 63 lbs of parachute - >you just haven't _lived_! Hah! When I was in the army we jumped damp 24' twills from 400 feet on a stormy night with 180 lbs of equipment and 95 lbs of parachute into a can recycling plant without making noise to give away our position. ;-} -- Made in New Zealand --> Brent Callaghan AT&T Information Systems, Lincroft, NJ {ihnp4|mtuxo|pegasus}!poseidon!brent (201) 576-3475
wanttaja@ssc-vax.UUCP (Ronald J Wanttaja) (10/10/85)
> "Cheap Thrills" > > I don't care > how many skydives > you've got, until > you have jumped into > total darkness > at 1000 feet with > 95 lbs of equipment > and 63 lbs of parachute - > you just haven't _lived_! > > SPECIAL FORCES > I don't care how many skydives you've got, until you have jumped into a hostile DZ through Cuban AAA fire from 300 feet with 95 lbs of equipment and 35 lbs of parachute (i.e., no reserve)- you just haven't __lived__! RANGERS!
eli@cvl.UUCP (Eli Liang) (10/14/85)
> > "Cheap Thrills" > > > > I don't care > > how many skydives > > you've got, until > > you have jumped into > > total darkness > > at 1000 feet with > > 95 lbs of equipment > > and 63 lbs of parachute - > > you just haven't _lived_! > > > > SPECIAL FORCES > > > > I don't care > how many skydives > you've got, until > you have jumped into > a hostile DZ through > Cuban AAA fire from > 300 feet with 95 lbs > of equipment and 35 lbs > of parachute (i.e., no > reserve)- you just haven't > __lived__! > > RANGERS! Thats interesting. I've considered joining either after graduation and my recruiter has told me that in order to go SF, you have to either be or train as a Ranger first! (He was a Ranger) -eli -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Eli Liang --- University of Maryland Computer Vision Lab, (301) 454-4526 ARPA: eli@cvl, eli@lemuria, eli@mit-mc, eli@mit-prep CSNET: eli@cvl UUCP: {seismo,allegra,brl-bmd}!umcp-cs!cvl!eli
rudy@bdmrrr.UUCP (Scott W. Rudy III) (10/16/85)
> > > SPECIAL FORCES > > > > > RANGERS! > > Thats interesting. I've considered joining either after graduation and > my recruiter has told me that in order to go SF, you have to either be or > train as a Ranger first! (He was a Ranger) > I hoped I would generate some interesting conversation from all the veteran paratroopers when I posted the original "Cheap Thrills" comment. I did _NOT_, however, anticipate that it would prompt a debate about the qualifications of Special Forces and Ranger troops. Before such a debate is started... Both Special Forces and Ranger qualified personnel are Airborne qualified. Once they have completed their job specific courses, they are sent to Ranger School (at Ft. Benning) for Rangers or Special Forces Qualification Course (SFQC at Ft. Bragg) for SF troops. Both schools are demanding. Both missions are demanding (but different). Rangers do not have to attend SFQC or vice versa although the highly motivated may do both during their career. There is certainly a rivalry between all those that wear the beret (green, black, or maroon), and especially between the two Army special operations units (excluding Delta Force). But I think between all US paratroopers, there is a feeling of comradship. Although I have left out many details concerning the training, mission, etc., I believe this should clear up any misconceptions that may have occured as a result of these postings. Maybe some of you veteran paratroopers (SF, RANGER or other) will post some of your jump experiences (training or live)?! -- Scott W. Rudy III The BDM Corporation WB5A 7915 Jones Branch Drive McLean, VA 22102-3396 UUCP: {seismo,rlgvax}!bdmrrr!rudy
al@infoswx.UUCP (11/01/85)
I guess the only story I can relate is one of jumping with a group of Pathfinders at Ft Rucker, AL. Since I was Airborne & they allowed me to jump with them. I was jumping my sport rig (SST Racer, Pegasus, and Featherlite R2). They took the UH-1H up to 2000' to allow me to jump. (They thought it would be fun for their people to have a long parachute ride). Well I followed out the last jumper, and openned right away (I would not want to break the BSR's :-). I zig-zagged around the MC1-1B's (the finest parachute made according to my Black Hat :-). Those jokers were so worried about hitting the DZ (It was SMALL for Airborne) that no matter how much I yelled, screamed and an whistled, they would not look up from the ground. I can't understand why more Airbore folks don't run into one another under canopy! Al Gettier D 5850 PS I was reassigned to an Airborne unit with the USAR. (Headquarters, First SOCOM, Fort Bragg). Are there any other sport jumpers that now jump with military units, and what precautions do you take? One of the folks I work with who is active, and an ex-Golden Knight, says he "Front Risers" until he is clear of everybody. I guess a bad landing is worth avoiding a collision.