des@druxh.UUCP (Salyer) (06/07/84)
Quoting a promotional notice of the IFGS: "Do you enjoy playing fantasy games or spy games? Do you enjoy impromptu theatre or improv acting in costume? Are you tired of playing a paper character in a paper world? How would you like to spend a few weekends this summer living in a fantasy world as a fantasy character of your own creation? Sound interesting?? It is!! For Information Call: Gary (303) 665-5296 (8am - 2pm MST) Mon - Fri. I.F.G.S Public Relations for more information see associated article in net.games.frp The Dream - No the Reality ... of IFGS ... Live it! Real (??) Life: Dale Salyer Fantasy (??) : Brandon the Cleric, or Stile the Blue Adept or Red-Eye the Cylon. UUCP-Mail : druxh!des USnail : AT&T Info Systems Denver, CO 80234
folta@yale-comix.UUCP (Stephen Folta) (06/07/84)
Sounds a lot like the Society for Creative Anacronism. Stephen Folta yale-comix!folta
brad@sdcrdcf.UUCP (06/08/84)
> Sounds a lot like the Society for Creative Anacronism.
May sound a lot like the SCA, but the SCA is based as much on historical
accuracy as current life allows, while the IFGS seems to be more of a pure
fantasy game, in which the person may act out any character desired.
Lord Johannes Spiess von Hochwald
% Brad Spear
sdcrdcf!brad
P.S. If Denise, who I was talking to about the SCA last year, is still on
the net, please send me some mail. Did you ever talk to a seneschal?des@druxh.UUCP (Salyer) (06/13/84)
> > Sounds a lot like the Society for Creative Anacronism. > No, not really. The SCA is more of a 'societal group' (is that a word - no flames please!) in that the participants make it more of a way of life. My cousin is involved in SCA and when he got married, they had a ceremony for their medieval selves as well. The group have real battles with REAL swords, battle axes, etc., and of course REAL armour as well. The emphasis (at least when I was involved) was on the 'group as a kingdom' rather than a means to play a game. The IFGS on the other hand, uses the medieval society as a background for the Games. The weapons are as 'safe' as possible, and emphasis is on 'Role-Playing', and FUN. By the way, I neglected to include the mail address of IFGS, contact them if you want the rules book or a subscription to the newsletter (about $8 for each - the price might have increased?!) Their address is : I.F.G.S. P.O. Box 3492 Boulder, CO 80303 If there is enough interest I'll post the game schedules as they are announced. We always need NPC's (sword fodder) for games. - Dale Salyer
eder@ssc-vax.UUCP (Dani Eder) (06/13/84)
13 June 1984
To correct a mis-impression some net readers may have gotten
about the Society for Creative Anachronism. SCA'ers wear real knives
and swords as part of their costumes, but never use real weapons in
combat. In fighting events, weapons are made of rattan, a realative
of bamboo, which tends to crush rather than break. They are heavily
taped and have minimum dimension >1" (like at the tip). Fighters
must wear protective headgear and body armor, and referees make sure
that fighting conditions are as safe as possible.
Now, people do get injured in SCA combat, but the injury rate
is comparable to the less violent sports of baseball and basketball,
and less than football or rugby.
Note, I was active in the SCA until last year, and did a
little fighting and 'marshalling', or refereeing, myself, so this
is first hand experience.
Dani Eder / Boeing Aerspace Company / ssc-vax!ederlute@abnjh.UUCP (J. Collymore) (06/13/84)
Just one correction to Dale Salyer's remark on SCA combat.
Back in the late 70's, I was an SCA member for a year (a balladier, East
Kingdom), and as far as I can recall, REAL WEAPONS WERE NOT ALLOWED IN
COMBAT!!!
The weapons I saw were wood, wrapped with foam rubber, and taped with silver
tape (to give the illusion of metal). Helmets had to be made of a certain
thickness steel, padded on the inside with at least an {_inch of foam
rubber, and allow a certain amount of visibility, other minimal requirements
were kidney belt, elbow and knee pads. Also, equipment must meet with SCA
rules, and those individuals who wish to have their names on the combat lists
must have had at least two sessions with the kingdom's appointed Knight
Marshall (?), and have him teach them the SCA rules of combat, as well as
pass his "course" and have their armor and weapons approved. Finally, before
a duel or a melee could begin, a waiver concerning personal injury must be
signed by the individual.
Although the rules may have changed since I was in it, or they may vary from
Kingdom to Kingdom (there are now 5 kingdoms in the U.S., I think), and I was
a non-combatant observer, these were the basic rules as they were explained
to me at the time, and I doubt that
there is anyplace that a group could get away with using REAL weapons
(legally) in such realistic combat situations.
Jim Collymorebrad@sdcrdcf.UUCP (06/14/84)
RE: SCA > ... The group have >real battles with REAL swords, battle axes, etc., and of course REAL >armour as well. ... NO! - NO! - NO! Anyone caught with ANY live steel (real swords, knives, etc.) is quickly removed from the field in an SCA combat. In our local kingdom, no one to my knowledge has brought live steel onto the field. It's too dangerous. The weapons are sticks of rattan, shapped with foam and wrapped in duct tape. This is not nearly as dangerous (and never fatal) as live steel is. The armor however, is real. Brad Spear sdcrdcf!brad
yba@mit-athena.ARPA (Mark H Levine) (06/14/84)
I wish people who are not in the SCA would stop explaining what it is. WE DO NOT USE REAL SWORDS. It is our hobby, not our way of life, although I guess there are fanatics in every group.... The Society is a non-profit organization that has a published statement of purpose. If you cannot find a local event and want more info, you can contact the Society for Creative Anachronism Inc., Office of the Registry, Post Office Box 743, Milpitas, California 95035-0743. The SCA is an example of Chivalry, Heraldry and Revelry for an age dead in spirit and song. It teaches its members, by direct exposure, the better parts of the middle ages--the music, costume, arts, food, and yes, martial arts, of the period. The swords used in combat are rattan, a light wood. Non-combatants, even at the wars (a gathering of more than one kingdom for purposes of fraternizing with the enemy), can be found pursuing skill at archery, juggling, singing, sewing, cooking and making in-period pavilions. The College of Heralds will even see your coat of arms is properly formed and your name sounds authentic. IT IS FUN. There is more. I'm not a good person to ask, but I get so mad.... (Flame off). The author is solely responsible for the accuracy of the above. Eleazor bar Shimon, Squire to (a) Duke Sir Lefty the Programmer Mitgaard, Barony of Carolingia, East Kingdom (The Carolingian Company of Archers shall rise again!)
eric@parallel.UUCP (Eric Griswold) (06/15/84)
Actually, the SCA does not use REAL swords. We use fake blunt swords make out of rattan. It offers the ability to simulate real blows without actually penetrating the armor and getting people seriously injured. Ian Fitzwilliam McLauren aka Eric Griswold ...decwrl!sun!parallel!eric
lmaher@uokvax.UUCP (06/16/84)
#R:druxh:-76000:uokvax:2400037:000:342 uokvax!lmaher Jun 16 00:19:00 1984 Let me join the legions of SCAers who are flaming Dale for incorrectly stating that the SCA uses real weapons in combat. Their weapons are made of Rattan and Duct Tape for the most part (and padding where needed), and are quite safe while giving realistic action. You can get bruised, but that's about all. --Carl ..!ctvax!uokvax!lmaher