[net.cycle] a simple solution to the drunk driving problem

ark (12/14/82)

Every time I think about what measures are appropriate for the government
to deal with drunk driving, I come up with problems.  For instance,
what is "drunk"?  While several states have specific limits for
blood alcohol, I refuse to believe that someone with X percent blood
alcohol will display an "amount of drunkenness" that is independent of
the individual involved.  To put it differently, whatever threshold you
choose, there will be some people who are incapable of controlling a car
with much less alcohol than that, and others who are perfectly competent
with considerably more.

Unless you believe that people should be prohibited from driving after
ingesting any alcohol at all, you have to admit that this approach causes
problems.

I have another suggestion.  Let the free market take care of it, as follows:
A driver is responsible for any damage caused by his actions behind the
wheel.  Being drunk, stoned, or insane is no defense.  Now, let (encourage,
but do not require) insurance companies base their rates, in part, on
the driver's past history of being involved in alcohol-related accidents.
I'll bet that the insurance companies will be a lot tougher than any
state governments, especially as they are not bound by all this "due process"
stuff.  If you can't find anyone to take on your risks (insure you), and
you aren't willing to post a financial security bond, you can't drive.
If you drive without evidence of financial responsibility (insurance card
or posting bond), that should be a felony, like fraud.

lrd (12/15/82)

Andrew Koenig proposed insurance premiums to reflect a driver's
history of involvement in alcohol-related incidents.  This won't do
a thourough enough job.  I have recently been involved, as a victim,
in two accidents caused by drunk drivers -- a hit and run, while my
car was parked, witnessed by three attorneys who recorded the
offender's license number.  The police were unable to locate the
driver!  In the second, the driver ran a red light and did $1500
worth of damage to my car.  He was obviously under the influence.
I asked the cop to administer a breathalyzer test; instead, he
administered a "field test" -- a series of coordination excercises,
and claimed that although the offender had been drinking, he would
not be shown to be at or even near the legal limit if the breath-
alyzer test were given.  No record was made on the accident report
of alcohol involvement.

The insurance solution would not apply to either of these cases.

Alcohol is involved in about 40% of serious car accidents, and about
60% of motorcycle accidents.  Why do we have a permissible limit?
Why not laws that will provide meaningful penalties for drivers who
are involved in traffic offenses or accidents with any detectable
amount of alcohol?  Why is it necessary to say that x% is OK?
Many countries have severe penalties for driving after drinking any
amount.  Why not here?  Why should my life and property be
endangered by some idiot who insists on drinking (or playing with
other substances) and then driving?  We, in this country, are far
too tolerant of people who drive with flagrant disregard for the
safety of others.  Twenty thousand lives are sacrificed annually on
the alter of drunk drivers.  Do we really need this?

On the same topic, the Motorcycle Safety Program at Northeastern
Illinois University (I am an instructor for this program) is
discussing an experiment.  We haven't made a final decision, but the
experiment would be to have some of the instructors (volunteers)
perform the Motorcycle Safety Foundation's skill test under
progressively increasing amounts of alcohol intake.  This would be
in a controlled environment, with the use of a breathalyzer (and
someone to drive the participants home).  If we do it, I'll keep
this newsgroup informed.

			L. R. DuBroff
			BTL -- Naperville, Illinois

wagner (12/15/82)

The simple solution to the drinking problem put forward here
(if you can't get insurance or post a bond, you have a history
of drinking and therefore shouldnt drive) is unworkable, because
it gives licence(sp?) to the wealthy to drive when drunk.

Michael Wagner, UTCS

hsc (12/15/82)

One bright spot is that a large chunk of moped sales are to people with
auto licenses suspended for drunk driving.  I think that depriving
drunk drivers of 90% of their armor and 90% of theirhorsepower is wonderful.  Now if we could just forbid them from wearing helmets
...
Harvey S. Cohen 1C314 American Bell, Lincroft, NJ 07748 (201)576-6059 hogpc!hsc