[net.cycle] Honda 750 transmission problems

dmp (01/10/83)

Subject: Re: Honda CB750C transmission problems

	It was suggested that others might like some information
about a particular problem common to many Hondas, especially
750s, and maybe other bikes.  Following is the information
sent to the original information-queryer...

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	Lucky sir, you are one among many ( + MANY + ), that have
problems with a 750s transmission.  I own a 1975 CB750 and have had
the same problem and have had to deal with it in an extreme
manner.
	This is the problem with your 750 (and other 750s and other HONDAs):

	The type of transmission that Hondas have cause this to happen
either because a lack of precision in the machining of the gears, or
overall poorly designed gear machanisms.  What happens is that two gears
next to each other on the same shaft are pushed together and interlock
via dogs, (pegs that stick out to its side), which go into holes
on the other gear.  One of the two gears is spinning, and when it is
pushed into the other gear, it creates a new drive configuration,
(ie. gears 1 - 5).  The reason the it is hard to shift, rough or makes
noise is that the Honda trasmission mechanism is not designed well
enough and the dogs on one gear have a hard time getting in the
holes on the other gear.  The reason that it pops out of gear
into what is called 'false neutral' is that the dogs get worn
and rounded and do not stay in the opposite gears holes well enough.
The more the gear slips out into false neutral the worse is gets.
	I personally have pulled my engine right out of the bike twice
to fix the transmission by replacing worn gears.
It works fine now.  Still noisy and rough though.
	Along the same lines, there is the shift fork that
pushes the gears together which also wears, which then makes it
more difficult to get the gears together, and therefore they
slip out into false neutral often.
	I will be glad to talk to you, or give you a more detailed
description of what happens, the causes, effects and cures.
Beleive me, I could have used the help when I had the problems.
I could supply you with diagrams or whatever you may need.
	Glad to help a fellow cycler...
		
		Dave Plaisted
		ABI Holmdel, NJ
		ariel!dmp
		
		(201) 834-3080

		Good Luck!