[net.cycle] Good Handling Bike Recommendations W

dhk@hp-pcd.UUCP (05/12/84)

I know I am not going to be the only one to say this but...
     check out the Honda 500 Interceptor.

				Dustin Kassman
				!hplabs!hp-pcd!dhk

darryl@ism780.UUCP (05/18/84)

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ism780!darryl    May 17 08:44:00 1984

I own a 1982 BMW R65 and currently have 42k on the odo (it's 2
years old today!).  I am VERY happy with the bike.  I commute
daily to work (~22 miles one way) and enjoy long day rides on the
weekends.  Although the sheer power of the bike is less than
enthralling, it's light, low-placed weight allows me to keep up
with most people in the twisties.  (It is my experience that most
people only know how to twist the grip...  how else could I keep
up with bikes that have 1/2 to 3/4 more horsepower?  I don't
claim to be a racer, but the MSF better biker course has shown me
a better way to turn-the best deal I ever got for $35).

I have my dealer do all of the maintenance work.  Although this
isn't cheap, I have noticed that they charge LESS for their time
than many of the Japanese dealers in the area.  The only thing I
have been able to use my 3-year unlimited miles warranty on is an
oil pressure sender that started leaking.

Disappointments:  in 1980, BMW changed the seat.  It is heavily
sculptured to look neat, but after a couple hours I HAVE GOTTA
GET OFF.  Also, the usual complaints about the hairbrained
sidestand (I replaced mine with a Brown Motor Works [Pomona, CA]
sidestand that works like a real sidestand ought to).

About the Moto Guzzi V50.  I think I read somewhere that they
have discontinued the V50 in favor of the V65.  A friend has a
1981 V50 III.  His bike is to mine as mine is to a 750, as far as
weight goes.  But he has had problems getting service for it (the
usual Guzzi complaint, no dealers).  He also had the standard
points replaced with an after market electronic ignition (the V50
II's had electronic ignition, but some kind of supply problem
made Guzzi switch back).

As you can tell, I am a convinced Beemer fan.  Buy one and catch
the fever!
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darryl@ism780.UUCP (05/20/84)

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ism780!darryl    May 18 15:05:00 1984


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The age of the four has come and gone three times this century!  Are
you sure it's going to hang around this time?  Raw horsepower
has NOTHING to do with the tractability of a motorcycle.  Anyone who
buys a motorcycle for the 1/4 mile times either only rides a few
weekends a year, or gets tired of the damn thing because its so
much effort in traffic.  That stiff clutch is fine for the dragstrip,
but how long can you hold it in in rush hour traffic?

In many aspects handling is at odds with speed, and the compromise that
you make shows how you plan (or don't plan!) to ride.  I have yet to
understand why 120 horsepower is ANY better than 70--both will move you
out of harm's way at about the same rate.  (Some 70 hp bikes will
do it faster than some 120 hp bikes, because more of their hp is
available where you are likley to be cruising).

Before you get any bike, ride it and see if it fits your style of
riding!  If you spend ALL of your time racing in the canyons, *maybe*
you DO want to buy that rocket.  But if you spend even *half* your time
going between the canyons, consider things like riding position, the
seat, handlebar shape, effort to turn, brake, and clutch, and even
where the mirrors are!  Do you want a fairing?  Think about what you
will want to, or HAVE to, change on the bike once you own it.
Consider screen editors--how many changes do you have to make to emacs
to make it do what you want?  Does vi fit your editing style?  Maybe
(s)ed IS the right editor for some jobs.

>>Ken, the age of the big thumper has come and gone, and if there is
>>any intrinsic worth in the design, nobody is spending enough
>>development money to find out.

Lots of development money has been spent already on the big singles.
They were the proving grounds for a great many ideas incorporated
into multi's.  They are cheap to care for, they DO have gobs of low
end torque, and tend to be lighter than twins or fours.  This
makes them very good candidates for in-town commuting, even if they
are unfashionable this year.  Motorcyclists are supposed to be an
independent crowd, but it seems that even the independent types are
closet conformists.

    Darryl (I shift on the right!) Richman   ...!cca!ima!ism780!darryl

P.S.:  Of course I own a single, and I have a great time on it.
It's a 1967 Montgomery Wards Riverside 350.  Fast enough for the
freeways, but not much on acceleration.  Sure it leaves a tingle
when I get off, but then I know when to use it...  And it only
cost me $100.

marauder@fluke.UUCP (Bill Landsborough) (05/23/84)

I have to laugh at this article.  Sounds like a 1967, $100
rated opinion to me.  

If finances or lack of need dictates that you will ride a
Montgomery Wards Special then I stop right here and offer
no criticism.  But to violently attack powerful and agile 
performance motorcycles when you obviously haven't the 
foggyist idea what one is like is just plain stupid.  You
have never passed a car in your life and probably down shift
to go over an overpass.  
  You are a good canidate for a NERDECTOMY!

Bill Landsborough