[net.cycle] Rider training/testing

peter@rlgvax.UUCP (Peter Klosky) (06/22/84)

munch

Panic stop should be an important part of training and testing
new riders.  When I teach someone, I always demand that they
pick a point on the lot, then apply the brakes hard from 60mph.
If they can't do this, they need additional training, or new
software.  Could be a problem with the i/o boards.

What is the proper thing to do when you are about to crash into
the side of a car?   "One plan of action is to try to leap up and
over the car, and let the bike crash into the car."

It didn't make any sense to me, either.
-- 
How many programmers...

darryl@ism780.UUCP (07/03/84)

#R:rlgvax:-204700:ism780:15800020:000:377
ism780!darryl    Jun 24 20:57:00 1984

This is only one area covered by the MSF Better Biker course.  I took
it last year ($35), and a club I belong to is sponsoring a class this
August for $30, so I will take it again.  I recommend it highly to
anyone that rides, regardless of experience/expertise.  "When you
think you know it all, it's time to quit riding".

	    --Darryl Richman
	    ...!cca!ima!ism780!darryl

dave@rocksvax.UUCP (Dave Sewhuk) (07/09/84)

As I lay in bed here with a cast on my leg from said crash I can say
that you sometimes get no warning.  I was passing the car that hit me
on the left when she decided to turn left into me.  She did this fine
manuever  about the time I was even with her door.  Don't worry about
jumping over the vehicle momentum takes care of that.  The bike and me
flew over the hood of her car, I landed on my back on the shoulder of
the road, the bike about 40 feet in front of me.  I could not have had
more than 3 seconds advance notice of impact, not much time to react.
I was probably going 40 when she hit me.

The only injury I sustained was a broken knee.  To those that don't
believe in the importance of proper riding clothing, please note that
the only scratch I got from this accident is the one where my watch
scraped me when it flew off from the impact.  I was wearing A Bell
Tourstar helmet (now with large grooves down the back), leather jacket,
gloves and pants and workboots.  My pants are now quite scraped up, but
my darriere and back are intact.  The doctor at the hospital told me
about some of the other people that were wearing less and told me of
their missing skin and extra breaks.  I believe my shoulder bones were
saved because I was wearing a sweater under the jacket and that helped
distribute the force of the impact more evenly.

The 3 other motorcyclists that I talked to in the hospital all had similar
circumstances of their accidents, people turning into them!  You just can't be
careful enough to avoid these clods in their automobiles!!
-- 
Dave

arpa: Sewhuk.HENR@Xerox.ARPA
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davidk@dartvax.UUCP (David C. Kovar) (07/11/84)

On proper riding attire ...

I too had someone turn into me while I was on their left. The cycle
flipped onto the median and I ended up on my back about 20 feet in
front of it. I was probably doing40 mph at the time and had next to
no time to react. Leather jacket, Simpson helmet and long pants saved
me from any major abrasions on the upper legs, torso, head, or arms.
I was NOT wearing boots of any sort, which was the killer. My right
peg, with my foot on it, impacted with the driver door and tore a
hole in it. That broke a toe and scraped the foot. Landing, my right
pant leg slid up and my right lower leg was badly abraded. My normal
high leather riding boots would have probably prevented both injuries.
They are also far better for putting down on the ground at speed, if
for some ungodly reason you need to do so. The only time I object
to the smooth leather soles is at toll booths when they land in an
oil patch. Not good at all ...

-- 
David C. Kovar    
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"The difficult we did yesterday, the impossible we are doing now."

an@hou2h.UUCP (A.NGUYEN) (07/14/84)

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> I too had someone turn into me while I was on their left. 

Avoid riding in people's blind spot *AT ALL COSTS*!!!   If you
absolutely have to ride in/near some guy's blind spot,  make sure
he knows you're there.

	Au