[net.cycle] About those integrated brakes.

gt@hplvla.UUCP (gt) (09/05/84)

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	I am curious about something...

	For those of you with newer (or older) bikes sporting "integrated
	braking systems," how do you like them?  

	The thing I keep wondering about is dirt and gravel.  I know 
	that it is usually the big super slab bikes like Gold Wings
	and Ventures which have these systems, however, there are 
	certain times when gravel is unavoidable (eg. road construction,
	driveways, etc.).  

	I almost never even use my rear brake on my big street bike,
	but when I'm in gravel I don't even think of using the front
	brake.  Has anybody noticed any problems along these lines
	or am I just anticipating something that never occurs?
	Specifically, I wonder about coming down a steep gravel section
	(eg. a long rural driveway) at low speeds where the front wheel
	is likely to lock up.

                   George Tatge
		   HP Loveland Instrument Div.
		   ihnp4!hpfcla!hplvla!gt

Today's safety tip:

		When coming around a corner at 35 degree lean and
		spotting a large deer/elk in front of you, follow
		these simple steps:

		Determine if it is a deer or elk (wapati eh?).
		If deer then determine if buck or doe.
		If buck then look at calendar watch to determine
		   if antlers are in or out of season.
		If antlers are in season then determine if buck is
		   facing towards you.
		If all true then calculate chances of surviving a launch
		   off of road edge.  (include factors such as guard
		   rail, anticipated vertical drop, temperature of river
		   water, etc.)
		If survival chances are better than .000001 then pull
		   bike upright and go for launch.
		else honk horn.

		If elk then go immediately to launch procedure.

tierney@fortune.UUCP (09/08/84)

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fortune!tierney    Sep  7 13:13:00 1984

Almost never use your rear brakes???  Sounds dumb to me, that's
25% of your braking back there.

Anyway, about gravel:

	I've done much riding on gravel in Ontario (its mostly 
	gravel in the north).  My bike was a '76 Honda CB750/4 
	with 1 front disc and 1 rear drum.
	Gravel was no problem, just brake as you normally would
	except always put the rear brake on a second ahead 
	of the front.  Also be aware of the pressure on the brakes
	so you detect any lockup BEFORE it happens and back off
	that brake.

	The funny thing about gravel is that you are more stable
	at 35 mph than at 25.  I used to regularly drive 50 on
	good gravel roads (read all-weather) in the north country.


Charlie Tierney
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