kehoe@reed.UUCP (Dave Kehoe) (04/14/85)
I bought my first bike last August -- a 1972 Honda CB450. I'm very happy with it, and I highly recommend old Japanese bikes in general and the CB450 in particular as a first bike to anyone who is mechanically inclined. I strongly *do not* recommend an old bike to anyone who does not enjoy doing maintenance and repairs. I paid $100 for the CB450. It had a dead transmission and over 30,000 miles on it. I spent another $250 on new transmission parts, getting the valves ground, new O-rings, battery, etc. It took several long weekends to get the bike running, but it runs beautifully now. I also learned a great deal about motorcycles. I then spent $150 on a Bell Star LTD helmet (a luxury -- you can get a good helmet for under $100); $100 on Con- tinental Twin tires (a necessity); $86/year on insurance (make sure you get "uninsured motorist" coverage); $40 on my license, title, etc.; $40 on good gloves (another neces- sity). The bike came with a fairing, crashbars, and saddlebags. So I spent about $800 in all. If I were going on a long tour, I'd also buy a leather jacket, trousers and boots ($500 - $600, I might skip the jacket because I have a heavy cloth jacket); a new chain and sprockets ($100); and a good toolkit ($?). In about 2000 miles, I've had to replace the studs that hold the rear sprocket on, and last weekend I had to take the right crankcase cover off to replace a bolt that I hadn't tightened properly when I put the new transmission in. I've also had to do lots of routine maintenance -- tightening the chain, replacing fork oil, etc. If you're thinking of buying a old bike, think about whether you want to work on it. You can get a new Honda CB450T Nighthawk or CM450 for $1100 -- $1300. These bikes need little maintenance and (with a warranty) no repairs. I know a *lot* of people who bought old bikes, had something minor (or major) go wrong, and now the bike sits in the garage gathering dust. I seem to be the only person who thinks nothing of pulling a crankcase apart. If you buy a used bike, change the oil, fork oil, brake fluid, and lubricate the chain. Assume that he previous owner did no maintenance. Tune up the bike. Look it over *very* carefully -- I found on my bike that the long bolts in the forks weren't attached to the big nuts on top of the forks, i.e. the forks weren't actually bolted on. Also, ask people (or post on net.cycle) about bikes you are considering. For example, Honda CB350's are supposed to be great bikes, but CB360T's are notoriously bad. Kawasaki KZ650's are real quick, but hard to start. Also, ask about handling, etc. The CB450 has excellent low speed handling (most important for a beginner), good high speed handling, good power (43 horsepower, 0-60mph acceleration in about 4 seconds), an excellent broad power- band, and is heavy enough (430 pounds) to be stable on the road. Good luck with your tour!
chuck@anwar.UUCP (chuck jann) (04/17/85)
[] > From: kehoe@reed.UUCP (Dave Kehoe) > Also, ask people (or post on net.cycle) about bikes you > are considering. For example, Honda CB350's are supposed to > be great bikes, but CB360T's are notoriously bad. Kawasaki > KZ650's are real quick, but hard to start. KZ650's hard to start? My KZ650 (1979 with >30,000 miles) NEVER takes more than 2 kicks to start. Other than that one point I agree with what you had to say. IT'S FINALLY SPRING !! TIME TO RIDE !!!!!!!!!!! -- ========================================================== cj UUCP address: {ihnp4,decvax,allegra}!philabs!hhb!chuck A UNIHORN DOES NOT A UNICORN MAKE