davidl@tekig5.UUCP (David Levadie) (10/02/85)
------- Some people deliberately try to kill motorcyclists who do this. I heard one story about someone whose truck-driver friend has deliberately killed or injured more than one slot-riding motorcyclist... On one occasion he was driving in tandem with another truck, evidently driven by a friend with similar tendencies, and when a motorcyclist rode into the slot between them, they eased over towards each other until the slot, and the motorcyclist, "just disappeared", in the words of the storyteller. On another occasion, the guy saw a biker coming up the slot in his rearview mirror, and opened the door to his truck directly in the rider's face.
daw1@rduxb.UUCP (WILLIAMS) (10/02/85)
> ------- > Some people deliberately try to kill motorcyclists who do this. I heard > one story about someone whose truck-driver friend has deliberately > killed or injured more than one slot-riding motorcyclist... I'd never do that around a trucker. They are mostly a bunch of strung-out scumbags who do lots of sick stuff for kicks on the highways. They can all go to hell! Doug Williams AT&T Bell Labs Reading, PA mhuxt!rduxb!daw1
pchan@mnetor.UUCP (Peter Chan) (10/04/85)
In article <762@rduxb.UUCP> daw1@rduxb.UUCP (WILLIAMS) writes: >> ------- >> Some people deliberately try to kill motorcyclists who do this. I heard >> one story about someone whose truck-driver friend has deliberately >> killed or injured more than one slot-riding motorcyclist... > It actually happened to me once, although I didn't hit them intentionally. It was my first time driving in Europe during a visit. Not very familiar with the ways in downtown (they called it "Centerville", I think) Paris, I hesitated at a stop light (in the left-most lane) finally, I made up my mind to make a left hand turn. However, there was a biker, with his girlfriend, trying to past me in the left, the opposite lane. The next thing I saw was watching 2 persons flying in front of my eyes. The guy wasn't too hurt but the girl was injured pretty badly. The police came, despite of all the communication problems, I finally gave them my address and phone number in Canada. I have never received any mail or call from them. Perhaps my insurance with the rental company took car of it, perhaps they figured out it wasn't my fault. Although I will not intentionally hit those bikers, I have no sympathy with them. If they want to play nasty and if they are hurt, nobody is to blame but themself. Peter Chan
stv@qantel.UUCP (Steve Vance@ex2499) (10/05/85)
>What I want to know is this: Is it legal (in California, or anywhere) >for motorcycles to drive between lanes, or on the shoulders, when traffic >is backed up? In Illinois, the law you are breaking when you do this is one that says you can't pass a car on the right unless you have six feet of clearance. This is what they get you for when you are caught going down the dotted lines. Of course, motorcyclists who do this are hard to catch, unless the cop is also on a motorcycle. -- Steve Vance {dual,hplabs,ihnp4}!qantel!stv dual!qantel!stv@berkeley Qantel Corporation, Hayward, CA
9234dwz@houxf.UUCP (POND SCUM) (10/07/85)
As a rider of 20 years now, I definately wouldn't lane hop around slow & stopped cars here in the US(probably Canada too after reading Peter Chans article). US drivers have little to no lane discipline, are totally unaware of what's happening outside there 4000 lb "heaven" (again see Peter Chans article). For 3 years I rode across London rush hour traffic & riding around & through traffic was the only way to make decent time. Never once was I cut off, "not seen" or otherwise placed at any major risk. However here in the states it's a much different story, people don't even see other cars, trucks etc let alone a bike. I was real surprised when I first found out that headlights on bikes where permenantly ON. Now I know why. Maybe we should carry small nuclear devices built into all bikes, THEN these *ssholes in cars would realise that people get HURT when they smash into bikes. Aside to Peter Chan, sorry if I appeared to come down heavily on you but the attitude "that it's their fault" really bugs the sh*t out of me especially when you probably put someone in the hospital, and do you KNOW for a fact that they WERE breaking the law. THEY ARE PEOPLE ON THOSE BIKES ! Dave Peak @ ihnp4!hotel!dxp "All the net's a stage and all the men and women merely ham actors !" - Rev Peak (apologies to Bill S.)
rfc@calmasd.UUCP (Robert Clayton) (10/10/85)
> >What I want to know is this: Is it legal (in California, or anywhere) > >for motorcycles to drive between lanes, or on the shoulders, when traffic > >is backed up? > > In Illinois, the law you are breaking when you do this is one that says > you can't pass a car on the right unless you have six feet of clearance. > This is what they get you for when you are caught going down the dotted > lines. Of course, motorcyclists who do this are hard to catch, unless > the cop is also on a motorcycle. > -- A California cyclist once told me that in California it is not legal to have more than two vehicles abreast in a single lane. This is supposed to allow two cyclist to ride abreast in the same lane, a site I often see and have no problem with. Many cyclists are interpreting this to mean that they can pass cars *provided* they stay in the same lane. On many of our skinny parking lots (freeways) you will see cyclists running down the dotted line between the stopped cars during rush hour. Said cyclist also said that sometimes they are ticketed for reckless driving when they cross the dotted line because they often must weave across the line to make their way between cars. Another law that arrests them is the law of physics when a motorist opens his door to see why the traffic stopped. Bob Clayton GE Calma San Diego R&D