[net.cycle] Nighthawk 'S' Oil Filter

jsloan@wright.EDU (John Sloan) (07/08/86)

Has anyone else had problems changing the '84 Honda CB700SC Nighthawk 'S'
oil filter? I have the shop manual, and the special oil filter wrench
that it recommends, but there doesn't seem to be enough clearance
between the exhaust head pipes and the engine case to remove the filter,
no matter what the shop manual says. I tried removing the small heat
shield that protects one of the oil cooler lines, but that didn't clear
enough room. In desperation, I pulled the whole exhaust system, but
that's enough work that it sort of negates the whole point of the
spinoff oil filter.

Alternatively, has anyone had any luck with aftermarket exhaust systems?
I've been looking at Vance & Hines and Kerker. Naturally I what it all:
lighter, some more power, not much louder, easy (EASY) access to oil
filter and drain, center stand retention, and no rejetting. Comments?

Since my reception of net.cycle is tenuous, I would appreciate replies
by email. Thanks!

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jjs@drutx.UUCP (SwansonJJ) (07/10/86)

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I too have an '84 Nighthawk S.  Removing the oil filter with the exhaust
system in place is kind of tricky.  The filter should fit through the
opening formed by the right-most (sitting on the bike) header pipe
and the frame down-tube.  It will be a very tight fit and is a two-step
maneuver.  First you have to get the fluted end of the filter into this
opening.  I can't describe how I do this, so just try different positions
until you get it.  Once the filter is in the opening it will slide easily
until the rim (end of filter opposite fluted end) hits the header pipe and
frame tube.  By now oil will be all over the place, so a firm pull will
bring the filter past this last barrier without scratching either tube.
But if you're concerned, you can grease these surfaces it before hand.

John Swanson
AT&T ISL Denver

david@tekig5.UUCP (07/11/86)

>Alternatively, has anyone had any luck with aftermarket exhaust systems?
>I've been looking at Vance & Hines and Kerker. Naturally I what it all:
>lighter, some more power, not much louder, easy (EASY) access to oil
>filter and drain, center stand retention, and no rejetting. Comments?
>
>Since my reception of net.cycle is tenuous, I would appreciate replies
>by email. Thanks!
>
>John Sloan                         CSNET:      jsloan@WRIGHT.EDU


I read a report in a cycle mag awhile back that compared about 15
aftermarket pipe with the stockers on a gs1100 Suzuki.

ONE pipe made more HP than stock, after properly jetted using a dyno,
and the gain was like 2-3%.

Several others approached the stock HP, within 5%, but the gain in
performance was attributed to a weight savings of 15-25 pounds
rather than plain HP.

To get a real gain you need much larger jets, and very good earplugs.
I would suggest saving your money unless you want to customize your
machine for looks, and take whatever performance you get, OR,
get a GSR1150!!

cheers,

dave