[net.rec.photo] Double exposure with the AE-1???

bnp@ihldt.UUCP (08/12/83)

	(I'm a relative newcomer to this group, so please excuse
this question if its a repeat of an earlier topic.)

	I'm interested in shooting double exposure photographs
with my Canon AE-1.  The camera has no mechanism designed for
this purpose, although rumor has that it can be accomplished
by rewinding the film by one frame before advancing and arming
the shutter.

	If anyone has had experience with this procedure, or knows
af any other effective tricks, I would appreciate hearing about
them.  If you are interested in the results, send me mail and I'll
forward anything I hear; if requests seem to warrent, I'll post
to the net.
			Thanks,
				Bruce Peters
				BTL - Naperville, Ill.
				...!ihnp4!ihldt!bnp

wm@tekchips.UUCP (08/16/83)

Many cameras which have no provision for double exposure
can be fooled into doing it with the following trick:

1- tighten up the tension on the rewind crank.
2- take the first exposure.
3- push the rewind button on the bottom of the camera.
4- Hold the rewind crank so that the film won't advance.
5- while doing #4, cock the shutter.
6- take the second exposure.
7- wind the film, and check to see that the rewind crank turns.

I've never seen a camera which this didn't work on, but
you may have to practice to make it work well.

			Wm Leler
			wm.Tektronix@Rand-relay

fred@umcp-cs.UUCP (08/16/83)

How can you tell when you've rewound by EXACTLY one frame?

The standard procedure for doing double exposures on cameras which
don't have this  feature (The Nikon FM series does) is to:

     1) Take up the slack in the film canister by giving the rewind
	crank a half turn. (I'm not convinced that this really does
	anything useful.)

     2) Press the rewind button and at the same time . . .

     3) Pull the film-advance lever.

I've done this with my OM-2n. It works, but the film tends to drift
a little, so you can't get really precisely aligned double exposures.
I imagine that with practice you might learn to avoid moving the
film. This is, of course, a real pain if you're trying to do  two
exposures without moving the camer at all (as in doing ``ghost''
images of people).

					Fred Blonder
					harpo!seismo!umcp-cs!fred

wally@cornell.UUCP (Walter C. Dietrich) (08/19/83)

The suggested solutions will probably give you double exposures, but
I wouldn't try them until I found a Canon repair-man who was sure 
they were safe (unless you have lots of spare money).  In any event,
they probably won't give you perfect alignment of the images.  Here
are two other suggestions:
    1.  Take your pictures the regular way (one image per negative) and
        make the double exposure in the darkroom.
    2.  Using slide film, make one image per slide, but overexpose them
        a stop or so (you will have to experiment with that part).  When
        you get the slides back, SANDWICH them (put two pieces of film
        in one mount).

Both of these give you more creative control and you can use them on your
old negatives and slides too!

                                Good luck,  
                                Wally Dietrich

kar@ritcv.UUCP (Kenneth A Reek) (08/23/83)

tton goes through 3/4 of a revolution,
4) Holding rewind crank still, re-engage sprocket by advancing winding lever
   until it stops,
5) Finish advancing film normally.

	This left the same frame behind the shutter with surprisingly good
accuracy.  I played around a little and found that the 3/4 revolution was not
very critical, presumably due to the construction of the ratchet in the
sprocket.

	This may or may not work on other cameras, and it may require a
different factor (other than 3/4 revolution), but this can be discovered by
experimentation.  If it works, you will have to put a mark on the rewind
button, but so what?

	Ken Reek, Rochester Institute of Technology
	seismo!rochester!ritcv!kar