[net.rec.photo] Mail order info

len10@ihuxw.UUCP (08/09/83)

          I have ordered camera  gear  by  mail  order  several  times
          through  Focus  Electronics  (NYC),  New  York Camera (NYC),
          Spiratone (NYC), and Lone Star Camera (Texas).  For me,  the
          lower prices justified the additional aggravation.  Delivery
          is fast - one week or less for in-stock items from the  East
          coast to Chicago.

          Tips on mail ordering:

            1.  Get local (non mail order) prices first before calling
                in  the mail order.  Be prepared to pay extra for U.S.
                warranties, camera straps, batteries, and lens  mounts
                through  mail  order  - but the price with these items
                plus shipping is still usually far less than the local
                prices plus local sales tax.

            2.  Don't be frantic with delivery delays.  If  you  abso-
                lutely  need  the  item  in  7 days, don't mail order.
                With the volume of sales each of these stores  handles
                per  day  (> 1000 orders per day near Christmas), they
                can't keep track of their inventory.  I've always got-
                ten out-of-stock items within 6 weeks.

            3.  Buy the  "extras"  (batteries,  lens  cases,  filters)
                locally.   Usually  the  mail-order  stores  make back
                their profits on these items and they  will  give  you
                the  hard sell on them.  Be ready to say "no" by know-
                ing the local prices.

            4.  Pay for your order via a charge card and don't pay the
                photo  portion  of  the  charge  bill  until  you have
                received and are satisfied  with  your  camera  goods.
                Send  a letter with your charge payment explaining why
                you aren't paying the entire bill (known as  a  letter
                of  protest).   If  you fail to get satisfaction, your
                charge company (Visa, Master Card, etc.) will work  on
                your behalf to get the problem resolved.

            5.  If you have trouble, find the nearest States  Attorney
                Office  (SAO), Department of Consumer Fraud.  In Illi-
                nois, this is a free service to  add  muscle  to  your
                dispute  with  a  mail-order store.  Mail order stores
                don't like to be hassled by them and will usually give
                you good service if you threaten them with the SAO.

            6.  Expect widely varying prices from  the  various  mail-
                order  stores.   In  general, the lower the advertised
                price, the higher the  shipping  costs  and  the  more
                pressure  you will encounter to buy extra items.  Some
                stores will not, in fact, sell the  item  at  the  low
                advertised price without some of the expensive extras.

          If you are aware of their games, mail ordering can  actually
          be fun!


          Len Dombrowski
          BTL - Naperville, Ill.

carlson@ssc-vax.UUCP (Lee R Carlson) (08/23/83)

My family and I have dealt with the following mail order outfits:

	Focus Electronics	$500. film order
	Lone Star Camera	Camera and flash.  This was a welcome
				relief from the N.Y. firms.  No pressure,
				real friendly.
	Executive
	49th Street

We have ordered several "K" worth through the mail and the only problem
we have encountered was a three interation ordeal to get the correct
binocular model from 49th.  I encourage EVERYONE to mail order.  Out here
the sales tax is 8.1% and I have never encountered shipping costs more
that 2%.  I did have a problem with my Vivitar 283 flash immediately
upon arrival.  I called up Lone Star and he gave me the address of Vivitar's
service center in San Diego.  I'm sure that any local outfit would have
exchanged the flash, but I'm not willing to pay for that "service" on the
off chance that I'll have problems.

Lee R. Carlson - Boeing Aerospace - Seattle - ...!fluke!ssc-vax!carlson