ddb@mrvax.DEC (DAVID DYER-BENNET MRO1-2/L14 DTN 231-4076) (06/18/84)
In answer to Daryl Richman's query about color processes for home darkroom use, here are some observations based on playing with color a bit over the last two years (and extensive B&W work over the past 15 years): Ektaflex is pretty neat; in particular, the ability to print from both slides and negatives with the same process (though different interneg films) is useful. The size print you can make is limited by the size of the laminator you use; the default one is 8x10, there is an 11x14 available but I think it's very expensive. The print quality is pretty good and the print permanence is very good (much better than ektacolor materials, not nearly as good as dye transfer; I think somewhere around Cibachrome). The Ektaflex materials, particularly for printing from slides, are very expensive (on the order of $3.00 per 8x10 print made). Other processes to consider are: Agfachrome-speed: This process produces prints from slides using one processing bath plus a water wash. I find it easier than Ektaflex to use, and it's cheaper to get started since you don't need to buy the laminator that Ektaflex requires. There is no process for printing from negatives. Because there is no laminator, the maximum size print you can make is controlled by your tray sizes and available materials. I think this stuff is available up to at least 16x20. Materials cost about the same as Ektaflex. Agfachrome-speed makes provision for contrast control, which can be very useful. Cibachrome: The most famous print-from-slide process for home use. I have not used it myself, these remarks are based on information from a friend who has used it extensively. The processing chemistry is pretty vile, you should make sure you have good ventilation in your darkroom. You will need a processing drum and motor agitator base. A water bath of some sort, preferably with thermostatic temp control, is a real good idea. However, many people make do with less. The actual rate of production is not much slower with Cibachrome than with Ektaflex, but you spend more of your time actually doing things (with Ektaflex you spend 6-15 minutes waiting while the film/paper sandwich does its magic). Cibachrome materials cost less than either of the first two processes. Ektacolor: Kodaks process for prints from color negatives. Very cheap. This is the process used by almost all commercial laboratories for color prints from color negatives. It's not really much harder than Cibachrome to use. The paper is available in two contrast grades. (not sure of proper name; Ektachrome, maybe?) Anyway, Kodak's process for color prints from color slides. Included for completeness, I have almost no knowledge about it. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Prints from slides versus prints from negatives: It's easier for a beginner to make prints from slides than prints from negatives. That's because you can look at a slide directly and make some judgement about the color balance, and because the slide itself provides a reference standard to compare the prints to. Negatives are cheaper to shoot, have more "exposure latitude" (there is no such thing, but never mind), and provide better color rendition and definition. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Since you mentioned C41, another short discussion of processes: C41 is the standard Kodak process for developing color negatives (and is also compatible with Ilford XP1 B&W film). It's very easy to use if you have a processing drum and agitator base; It's possible to use without that. You need temperature control for the solutions before they go into the drum. Use a waterbath; a thermostatic control is not necessary, particularly if you have a friend to help you process. E6 is the standard Kodak process for developing color slides. All the comments about ease of use I made about C41 apply here also. I've participated in developing hundreds of feet of E6 film over the last two years. Most color negative films are C41-compatible (all the ones I can think of at the moment). Most color slide films are E6 compatible. All films I've seen that are compatible with one of these processes say so clearly on the film cartridge, so there shouldn't be any doubt. ------------------------------------------------------------------ It's nice to see a question I have some information about. Thanks. -- David Dyer-Bennet -- {decvax|ihnp4|allegra|qubix}!decwrl!rhea!mrvax!ddb
paull@hplabs.UUCP (06/19/84)
<flash bulletin> If you think you would like to print color slides, I would recommend purchasing the Cibachrome Discovery Kit. It comes with chemicals, 20 sheets of 4x5 glossy paper, processing drum, a complete set of 3x3 color printing (CP) filters and instructions. The first time I tried this kit, the results amazed me. I didn't need to make extra prints to balance the colors, they looked great. CATCH: After using the kit, I purched the 'big stuff', 8x10 paper and gallon chemistry. Well, this time the color balance was not 'right on' with the first print. In a way It restored my 'faith?' in color printing. Finally, I would recommend Cibachrome to would be slide printers. When the color balance and contrast is good, the prints 'knock your lights out'. 73, Rob Paull (KA6SFV) @ hplabs