[net.rec.photo] Cibachrome dyes

kiessig@idi.UUCP (Rick Kiessig) (06/20/84)

	The reason Cibachrome dyes are more long lasting
is not for the reason stated in a previous article, but
rather that the Ciba dyes are based on inorganic chemicals,
whereas "standard" (i.e. Kodak) dyes are vegetable-based.
The vegetable based dyes fade pretty easily when placed in
the sun (or with age), whereas the inorganic ones don't.

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smith@umn-cs.UUCP (Richard Smith) (06/23/84)

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umn-cs!smith    Jun 22 11:55:00 1984

Re: Cibachrome dye permanence

  Hmmm.  According to Peter Krause in one of the several Krause & Shull
books on Cibachrome, the dyes are pure azo dyes.  Now, I don't know much
about dyes, but azo dyes ARE carbon compounds.  But I don't think that
the organic-ness of the dyes is the point.  The point is that the pure
dyes are built right into the paper and NOT formed or activated during
processing.  The dyes don't depend on a complex reaction to acquire their
color.  Many other (read "Kodak") color processes don't start out with
the dyes; the dyes are usually produced during processing.

Rick.
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