[net.news.b] another problem with colon

dhb@rayssd.UUCP (06/06/83)

	I have encountered a minor problem related to the colon
prompt.  This is not a deragatory comment, as a general rule I
don't mind the colon.  It would be nice however, if people would
refrain from putting excessive blank lines in their articles.
Those of us who have the blank line suppression feature of "more"
enabled are sometimes annoyed by having news say an article is
20 lines long and then only seeing 10 lines on the screen.

	Now that I have that off my chest, on to my real problem.
The way I understand it, the purpose of the colon is to prevent a
long article from scrolling off the screen when printing the header
for the next article.  If the last article in the newsgroup is one
line less than this magic limit (16 lines) the colon is not printed,
however, since the next article header is preceeded by the name of
the newsgroup, the top of the article is scrolled off the screen!!

	The way I see it, this problem can be fixed in one of two ways.
Either the code in "show_tail" can be made smarter and recognize that
when this is the last article in the group that it needs more room, or
change the line in "hdr" that curently reads "if (holdup)" so that it
reads "if (holdup || ngrp)".  The second one is probably easier, but
has the side effect of pausing after ALL groups, not just those whose
last article is longer than 13 lines (approx.).

	I am going to implement the second choice I outlined above and
will report back as to the outcome.

			Dave Brierley
			Raytheon Co., Portsmouth RI
			...!allegra!rayssd!dhb
			...!brunix!rayssd!dhb

derek@sask.UUCP (06/08/83)

	If I may be so bold as to suggest that the next version of readnews
	have an implied formfeed at the end of every article, then I feel I
	have done my part.

Derek Andrew
U of Saskatchewan

laura@utcsstat.UUCP (06/15/83)

I would rather if the VERY FIRST TIME you type something wrong in response to
the colon you saw that obnoxious message but that subsequently it NEVER was
printed again. If you have a CHRONIC_CONFUSED_BY_COLONS or something in your
enviornment then you could get the message every time.

I am very tired of seing this message at 1200 baud  --  my hand is
conditioned to type space to more whenever input stops and I want it to
continue. Even if whitespace was ignored when a : appearswould be some help,
but I think that long, chatty, error messages are only second to
errors that <beep> in obnoxiousness. They also perpertrate the notion
that the manual is meant as an excellent paperweight but not intended
to be read. Of course, the idea of reading an inch of lpr output (the
size of the 2.10 news documentation including how to install it) may
strike terror in the hearts of mere mortals.

Laura Creighton
utzoo!utcsstat!laura