gnu@l5.uucp (John Gilmore) (12/15/85)
In article <270@ius2.cs.cmu.edu>, ralphw@ius2.cs.cmu.edu (Ralph Hyre) writes: > In article <36000078@uiucdcs> mcewan@uiucdcs.CS.UIUC.EDU writes: > > > >>> Obviously, since the name was on the article under the From > >>> heading... > ... > >> ... I couldn't find your name anywhere > >> in the heading or in the article... > > > >Also, please be aware that notesfiles users can NOT see the "From" line, > >unless <begin mini-flame> some turkey with a religious objection to using > >an editor posts all 17 zillion garbage lines that their news interface > >shows them in a response <endflame>. > Seems like the 'turkey' here is either the author of notesfiles (for not > updating the software) or those who keep using it when better and more robust > tools are available. The problem is that the netnews software was unprepared for a change made by the netnews administrators (hmm, this seems to be a recurring problem). The change was that the Path: line in some moderated groups no longer reflects who the message came from; instead, it gets a bogus address reminiscent of the newsgroup name. The From: line still exists and would be fine except that vnews (and apparently notes) do not use it. Vnews would show it if you compiled it with the option that assumes you have a uucp router running -- but we don't, and a lot of other people don't too, from the mail paths I receive things by. The reason the administrators don't use the Path: line for what God :-) intended is obscure; since these articles were actually *mailed* to the moderator, the news article has not propagated thru all the sites in the return address. But if you put these sites in the Path:, netnews will not forward the message to those sites. Catch-22. It would be nice if somebody fixed this cleanly sometime and released some netnews software but I haven't heard anybody responsible who thinks it's a bug. (They tell me to run a uucp router -- thanks guys.)
hokey@plus5.UUCP (Hokey) (12/18/85)
I sent out a workaround fix for the Path: problem to the moderators mailing list a couple of times. Near as I can tell, however, the only mod group that uses the fix is mod.std.mumps. Just to avoid doing it again, here is the procedure I use: Edit the headers, leaving only Date: From: (canonicalize the address) Subject: copy From: to Reply-To: Put From: into % format ADD: Volume-Issue: 2.n The crucial point is the % format of the From: line. Smart news readers will use the Reply-To: field, which is in canonical form. The Path: is created from the From: line. By keeping this field in % format, the Path: is not messed up anywhere, and dumb mailers will reply along the Path: which will eventually send the mail to mysite!sender%sendersite, which will be properly routed from mysite. -- Hokey ..ihnp4!plus5!hokey 314-725-9492