glenn (05/12/82)
Yeah, the FAR's sure are fun to interpret, hah?!? Following is the text from the relevant sections, and my interpretation thereof: 91.107 Special VFR weather minimums (a) Except as provided in 93.113 [irrelevant to this discussion] when a person has received an appropriate ATC clearance, the special weather minimums of this section instead of those contained in 91.105 [which is the section on "normal" VFR minima] apply to the operation of an aircraft by that person in a control zone under VFR. (b) No person may operate an aircraft in a control zone under VFR except clear of clouds. (c) No person may operate an aircraft (other than a helicopter) in a control zone under VFR unless flight visibility is at least one statue mile. (d) No person may take off or land an aircraft (other than a helicopter) at any airport in a control zone under VFR - (1) Unless ground visibility at that airport is at least one statue mile; or (2) If ground visibility is not reported at that airport, unless flight visibility during takeoff or landing is at least one statue mile. (e) [States you can't operate in a control zone when it's dark when the above minima apply unless you are instrument rated and equipped.] ----------------------------------- Commentary: First, I am assuming the question is in regard to fixed-wing aircraft, which eliminates all the horsehockey about 'copters. To answer your questions specifically: (1) First, if the weather is below 91.105 minima (1000 and 3, as you state) you can't TAKE OFF or LAND at an airport within the CZ unless (d)(1) and (2) above are satisfied, without an appropriate clearance from the agency who controls that airspace (i.e. the CZ). BUT if you are 10000 feet, the flight viz is 50 miles and you maintain the 91.105 cloud-clearance limits, the control zone minima do not affect you and you DO NOT need to contact ATC to traverse the CZ (assuming of course that the airport elevation is not above 7000, in which case you are in the ATA (if the airport is controlled) and you have to contact the appropriate controlling agency anyway.) This interpretation is both completely consistent with the above language (albeit it is not obvious until you read it a few times) and it makes sense: The purpose of a CZ is to maintain controlled airspace *down to the ground* when the weather is below basic VFR, at airports where sufficient IFR activity warrants the prevention of scud-runners zooming thru approach/departure airspace below applicable transition areas (the floors of which are either 700 or 1200 feet.) For example, at an uncontrolled field WITHOUT a CZ, (but with a published IAP) scud-busters can legally fly VFR below 700ft with 1 mile/clear-of-cloud limitation right thru the approach path, because it's UNCONTROLLED AIRSPACE. The CZ is designed to prevent this (except with approval of ATC.) It is not intended to encroach on higher-level airspace. (2) If a layer of fog renders ground viz one mile, and you are at 12000, you do NOT have to get an SVFR clearance to traverse the control zone, because you are not taking off or landing (which obviates (d) above), the flight viz is greater than one mile (which satisfies (c) above) and you are maintaining clearance from clouds in accordance with 91.105 (which satisfies (b) above. (e) does not apply, because the other weather minima have been met. (3) To try to add some "logic" to the CZ language: Providing positive control (i.e. all aircraft landing/taking off in CZ are on a clearance) allows VFR departures from a CZ under conditions which would normally prevent it, but which are perfectly suitable to continue VFR outside the CZ. For example, suppose the airport is under a relatively local broken 800 foot ceiling, but viz is 50 miles. Under 91.105, tough cookies. Wait it out. But under SVFR, you can get a clearance to takeoff and depart the CZ (usually in a specific direction) and you can continue below 700 outside the CZ as long as you maintain clear of clouds (assuming uncontrolled airspace outside the CZ, which it usually is below 700ft, unless you're in a TCA or something, then none of this applies anyway.) The same example applies to a low-viz-but-no-ceiling situation, such as "X2GF" (sky obscured, viz 2, ground fog) where 91.105 would have you waiting on the ground waiting to get out, or flying around outside the ATA waiting for the fog to burn off. SVFR solves this problem, and can be used to good advantage, provided the pilot has the judgement to use it wisely and not as a license to go scudrunning. (4) Getting inconsistent answers from CFI's is no surprise. If you are just beginning in aviation, be prepared for lots more of the same, unfortunately. Many CFI's are really not very well versed in the regs or in aerodynamics, though most I've had are pretty good teachers and mostly competent pilots. The best source for obscure answers is your local GADO or one of Richard Taylor's books, ("Fair Weather Flying" and "Instrument Flying" are chock full of good stuff about airspace/regs.) He is a real stickler about understanding the regs. The trick is to understand the reason *behind* the regs, and then figure it out from there. Hope this clears things up a little. Happy landings. - Glenn Golden (...vax135!lime!glenn) (BTL Holmdel)