[net.aviation] actual instrument time

ark (07/27/82)

I believe that the following situations are not adequately
defined in the FARs.  I would like other opinions as to what
the regs actually say.

Suppose you are on an IFR flight plan at night over open water.
The weather is clear with unrestricted visibility.  There is no
moon, and the stars are less bright than the reflections of the
panel lights in the windshield.  There is thus no horizon and
no ground reference.  Anyone who has flown in such a situation knows
that the airplane is uncontrollable without the instruments,
and thus you should be entitled to log that time as actual instrument
time, as much as if you were in clouds.

But this aforementioned flight would in fact be legal under
VFR.  If I am doing it under VFR, can I log actual instrument
time?  Does it matter if I am instrument-rated?  If I can't log
it as actual instrument time, what can I log it as?  Simulated
instrument time?  With no safety pilot?