[net.aviation] HAM radio use on airliners

kfr (12/14/82)

It seems that a large number of HAM's are under the impression that
they can use portable radio equipment on board an airliner as long
as they ask the crew and get their permission.

	THIS IS INCORRECT - HAM RADIOS ARE ILLEGAL ON AIRLINERS

Although Part 97 of the FCC rules indicates that the pilot can give
permission, the FAA's rules (FAR 91.19c) states that only the airline
itself, and not the pilot, can give permission to operate. The rules
are quite explicit on this point, and I wish you the best of luck in
trying to get official airline permission to operate (as far as I know,
it has only happened once in the mid 70's. The operator was an airline
maintenance employee and helped do the required testing).
Whenever a HAM is aboard an airliner, that person is bound by both
Part 97, AND the Federal Aviation Regulations (FAR's), even though
the FCC hasn't realized it yet.

I've seen what my 2 meter rig can do to aircraft navigation radios,
and I sure wouldn't want to be on an airliner that was experiencing
the same kind of interference.

Kevin Redden
BTL-HO
201 949-3268

kco (12/15/82)

Mr. Redden said that a 2 meter rig onboard an aircraft could interfere
with aircraft navigation radios. Could a 2 meter ground rig interfere
with nearby aircraft radios, for example, where an aircraft is following
the glideslope or localizer on an instrument approach? Which radios, if any,
would be affected?

Schiller@MIT-MULTICS (12/17/82)

From:  Schiller at MIT-MULTICS (Jeffrey I. Schiller)
There is an article/column in one of the recent (maybe the most recent I
don't have it in front of me) issue of QST (the journal of the American
Radio Rely League) explaining the rules reguarding use of Amateur Radio
equipment onboard an airliner. It also gives examples of kinds of
lossage that can be encountered when a radio is used on board.