[net.aviation] airspeed during ILS approaches

ark (12/17/82)

I traded some hood time with a friend last night in a Cessna 172.
He was shocked to discover that I normally fly ILS approaches at
about 105 knots -- he normally flies them at about 65 or 70,
with partial flaps.

His arguments: (1) it's better practice because it's harder to control
the airplane, and (2) by putting the airplane in its landing configuration
over the outer marker, you minimize configuration changes on short final.

My arguments: (1) A big advantage of flying over driving is that I can
get there sooner.  Flying an ILS approach quickly saves time.  It
seems best to do during practice whatever you would do for real.
(2) Sometimes ATC tells you to keep your speed up on final because
you have fast traffic on your tail.  (3) All I have to do over the
marker is reduce power to start the descent.  In a retractable, I
drop the gear over the marker and leave power alone. (4) An ILS always
has a long runway at the end, so there is plenty of time to bleed off
airspeed in the flare.

I also believe, and this should probably be #0, that there is no single
"right" way to do it, and each pilot should use the technique that
makes him the most comfortable.

I am posting this to the net so I can have the opportunity to hear,
and learn from, other people's comments.

dwl (12/18/82)

Just to add to the confusion, I fly a Mooney... an elderly one.

If I "...just drop the gear, leaving the power alone..." I'll
probably damage something!  I usually slow to about 120 (mph) during
the vectoring that leads to the initial approach segment, and to
about 100 approaching the marker.  120 is the max gear extension
speed in that airplane.  I then drop the gear, and cross the marker
at the speed that results ... typically about 100.  Slowing further
is usually delayed until the field is in sight.

When the weather is really low, however, I, too, prefer to fly the
whole approach slowly.  More time to think things over on the way to
the middle marker.  

Turbulence is more easily handled at a higher airspeed.  So is a
pull-up if the field doesn't come into view.

-Dave Levenson
-BTL Holmdel

larson (03/09/83)

#R:rabbit:-99400:sri-unix:4000001:000:638
sri-unix!larson    Feb 14 19:20:00 1983

  Your 105 Kt approach speed is somewhat above the manuevering
speed of the C-172 (around 87 Kt as I recall).  You might be in
for a suprise if you hit sudden turbulence in those clouds you
are diving through.
  When I was doing IFR in the 172, we used 70 or 80 Kt, depending
on whether one of the speeds was in the handy little box at the
bottom of the Jepp chart.  You really don't want to come screaming
out of the clouds at DH and have to change things that much.  You
should be configured so that you just continue your ride down the
ILS to the runway - smoothly.
  Remember, some things are harder to slow down than a Cessna.
	Alan