esac@ihuxr.UUCP (06/22/83)
I stand corrected on one assertion I made about safety pilots and logging time. The latest word I have (from two CFIIs) is that a flight instructor, while giving flight instruction, always logs the time as PIC, regardless of the ratings of the trainee. However, if the trainee is getting instrument flight instruction, is under the hood, and is not yet instrument rated, both pilots log the time as PIC. I can find nothing in the FARs that covers this, but this is what I am told by people who should know. At least this week anyway. I am also told that if an instrument student is flying with his CFI under actual instrument conditions, only the CFI can log the time as PIC and the student only gets the instrument time and dual received. Since the student is not yet instrumented rated, he cannot get PIC time under actual conditions. A question comes to mind here. Controlled airports consider a special VFR clearance to land at their field an instrument operation (per a controller at DuPage Co., Ill. field). If a VFR pilot gets a special VFR clearance, could he log his flight time under actual instrument conditions? I got a special VFR once and had to stay clear of the control zone until another plane landed. Bill Adams ihuxr!esac
SANDY%MIT-ML@sri-unix.UUCP (06/25/83)
From: Andrew F. Sibre <SANDY @ MIT-ML> q
avsdT:roberts@avsdS.UUCP (06/27/83)
I take it that the article posted as "Mea Culpa, Mea Culpa" is an attempt at 'netting IFR', or was I wearing my foggles? (I just can't resist a good joke, even if it is in the wrong newsgroup).
larson@sri-unix.UUCP (07/08/83)
#R:ihuxr:-48100:sri-unix:4000008:000:164 sri-unix!larson Jun 23 10:00:00 1983 The controllers keep traffic counts by type (VFR/IFR) for staffing and equipment justification. Regardless of how *they* count special VFR, *you* are VFR. Alan