gjphw@ihuxm.UUCP (09/15/83)
I would like to agree with P. Karn (eagle!karn) that it seems unlikely that the KAL 007 was on a spy mission for the U.S. and Japan. It does seem to me that the Soviet government, in defending their actions against the Korean 747, ascribe to the U.S. the same motivations that they employ when using Aeroflot for reconnaissance. While I also agree with the quotations provided by D. Allen (druxu!dea) about the value of using commercial airliners as intelligence gathering platforms, I do not feel that this is a procedure that would be used by the U.S. One of the few aspects of the U.S. that has achieved some respect from both Western and Eastern nations is the idealism that remains in U.S. society. Most new countries have this idealism, that social ills can be cured in a short time, and when they are not, the government and society become much more "realistic" about what can be accomplished. A new wave of idealism may break out at a later date and lead to a revolution which merely begins the cycle again. Among the established and stable nations of Europe and Asia, the U.S. has retained much of its new country idealism. People here still speak occasionally about attacking social ills, despite the reality that the remaining problems are complex and not readily amenable to legislative fixes. Part of this idealism is that civilians are not to be used as pawns in a military operation. It violates my sense of idealism to consider that the U.S. would use a civilian aircraft carrying passengers for a military purpose. It is also my understanding, from my few military pilot acquaintances, that aircraft recognition is an important drill required of all fighter pilots. This will allow a pilot to quickly recognize his/her opponent in the sky and handle their abilities, in so far as military intelligence can provide the information. I would suspect that Russian fighter pilots are also required to recognize and memorize the operational characteristics of all major military and civilian aircraft, as a prerequisite for possible battle. The Russian pilot probably did recognize the type of aircraft, but could not readily identify the type of operation (due to projection of motivation, as mentioned previously). Patrick Wyant AT&T Bell Labs (Naperville, IL) *!ihuxm!gjphw
ntt@dciem.UUCP (Mark Brader) (09/16/83)
Once again (but maybe the first time in this group): It was not an American plane. It was not a Japanese plane. It was a Korean plane, and speculation as to whether it was spying, saving fuel, or whatever, should be confined to what the Koreans might want. Do you think the CIA tells the Koreans everything it learns from satellites? Mark Brader, NTT Systems Inc., Toronto